ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#401 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:48 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#402 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:50 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT MON JUL 5 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN DISORGANIZED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
SMALL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH OF MORGAN
CITY LOUISIANA. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR
DEVELOPMENT...AND THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MOVES INLAND BY
LATE TONIGHT.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#403 Postby MGC » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:03 pm

Just looking at its radar presentation it looks like a TD to me.....MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#404 Postby tailgater » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:07 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT MON JUL 5 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS REMAIN DISORGANIZED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
SMALL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH OF MORGAN
CITY LOUISIANA. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR
DEVELOPMENT...AND THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MOVES INLAND BY
LATE TONIGHT.
Just goes to show what I know. looks like a TD to me. Well lots of tropical down pours today and tomorrow for me, and bad conditions for clean up effort!
PS sorry MSG I didn't see your post.
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#405 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:17 pm

The NHC weren't ever gonna upgrade this one so close to land and with it previously being at 10%...the convection needs to last a certain amount of time before the NHC really get keen.

That being said I have few doubts it may have briefly been a TD yesterday.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#406 Postby tailgater » Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:28 pm

Well I guess this is about the same as a TD anyway.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 108 PM CDT MON JUL 5 2010 UPDATE A COASTAL FLOOD WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE COASTAL SECTIONS OF SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA LATE TONIGHT THROUGH MIDDAY WEDNESDAY. COASTAL FLOODING MAY OCCUR AS WITH HIGH ASTRONOMICAL TIDES COMBINE WITH ABOVE NORMAL WATER LEVELS AND AN INCREASING SOUTHEASTERLY WIND FLOW. THE THREAT FOR COASTAL FLOODING IS HIGHER ON WEDNESDAY MORNING THAN ON TUESDAY MORNING.

MARINE A SMALL NON-TROPICAL LOW SITTING OVER THE NEAR SHORE WATERS SOUTH OF MORGAN CITY WILL MOVE NORTHWEST THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON THEN DISSIPATE AS IT MOVES INLAND. SW WINDS 10-15 KT DOMINATE TODAY WITH SOME GUSTS TO 20-25 KT AROUND TSTMS. SHORT TERM MODELS FORECAST TIGHTENING PRES GRADIENTS LATER TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY WED WITH HIGH PRES REMAINING OVER GEORGIA AND AN INVERTED TROUGH EXTENDING NORTH FROM A TROPICAL WAVE IN THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN MOVES NORTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL GULF. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WERE ISSUED FOR THE COASTAL WATERS FOR TONIGHT THROUGH WED AS WINDS RISE TO AROUND 20 KT. THE 12Z NAM12 HAS STRONGER WINDS TUE INTO EARLY WED WITH SOME 30-35 KT REACHING THE GULF WATERS EAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THE NAM12 IS ALSO FASTER THAN THE OTHER SHORT TERM GUIDANCE INCREASING WINDS EARLY THIS EVENING. THE GFS AND SREF MODELS ALSO INCREASE WINDS...BUT ONLY TO AROUND 20-25 KT AND ARE ABOUT 12 HOURS SLOWER IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE WIND FIELD OVER THE EASTERN HAVE OF THE COASTAL WATERS. AT THIS POINT FORECASTS SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BUT MORE IN THE DIRECTION OF THE GFS. THE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER IN THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN IS LESS ORGANIZED THAT 24 HOURS AGO. CURRENT NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER FORECASTS INDICATE THAT THE WAVE WILL WORK NORTHWEST INTO THE CENTRAL GULF BY MIDDAY WED THEN HEAD TOWARD THE UPPER TEXAS OR SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA COAST. THERE IS ABOUT A 30 PERCENT CHANCE THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE. SWELL TO THE NORTHWEST OF THIS WAVE ARE EXPECTED TO RISE TO ABOUT 8 FEET N THE OUTER GULF WATERS WED. CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE FROM THE EAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. 92/ALBRECHT
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#407 Postby bahamaswx » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:09 pm

Disappointed this one never got classified.
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#408 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:14 pm

Might be looking at a post-season upgrade there. It probably is a tropical storm right now. Looks like half an EYEWALL there to me on radar!
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#409 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:19 pm

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#410 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:25 pm

Closed circulation - check. Convection over center - check. Looks like a tropical cyclone to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#411 Postby xironman » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:26 pm

Landfalling thunderstorm?
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#412 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:40 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Closed circulation - check. Convection over center - check. Looks like a tropical cyclone to me.

Yeah...but the convection is not deep...and that is part of being a TC is having deep convection. It doesn't even have any oranges on IR.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#413 Postby One Eye » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:46 pm

The big question is the center completly closed off meang that surface winds are counter-clockwise fashion. Does anyone know whats going on at the surface. I do know that NHC sometimes does not spend the money on recon knowing the system will soon be on land. To me it looks like a depression on sat pics.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#414 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:48 pm

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#415 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:49 pm

We'll need to watch the observations post-landfall. That will be the best clue of whether or not it was a TD or TS. (If it was only a TD then I doubt they would do anything since it would not go into HURDAT)

If winds of 35 kt or higher are found then I do think they should revisit this as a possible unnamed tropical storm.
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#416 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:53 pm

Is it warm cored?
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#417 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:04 pm

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Appears to be about to move inland
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#418 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:44 pm

Wow I can't see how this wasn't classified something.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - DISCUSSION

#419 Postby mgarland » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:45 pm

Stephanie wrote:
CajunMama wrote:Hehe...Cantore tweeted my hometown Image
JimCantore 95L trying to beat 96L to #Bonnie , however, t-storms NOT currently co-located near micro center south of Lafayette, LA


I don't see him tweeting "Glassboro, NJ" anytime soon... :cry:

Be careful what you wish for, I never expected him to be in Paducah KY either :cold:
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#420 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:06 pm

AL, 95, 2010070518, , BEST, 0, 287N, 909W, 30, 1008, LO

Up to 35 mph!
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