EPAC : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION AGATHA

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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#161 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 28, 2010 4:21 pm

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cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track

Looks like an upgrade very soon.

EP, 90, 2010052818, , BEST, 0, 128N, 945W, 30, 1005 , LO


Where is the link to the BT?


ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#162 Postby Iune » Fri May 28, 2010 4:46 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Phoenix's Song wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z Best Track

Looks like an upgrade very soon.

EP, 90, 2010052818, , BEST, 0, 128N, 945W, 30, 1005 , LO


Where is the link to the BT?


ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/


Thanks :D
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#163 Postby I-wall » Fri May 28, 2010 5:02 pm

Does anyone know when or if we will get any quickscat images or microwave images of this system?
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#164 Postby tolakram » Fri May 28, 2010 5:04 pm

Quikscat died last year, it is no more.
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#165 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 28, 2010 5:05 pm

I-wall wrote:Does anyone know when or if we will get any quickscat images or microwave images of this system?


QuickSCAT failed several months ago.
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#166 Postby I-wall » Fri May 28, 2010 5:28 pm

srainhoutx wrote:
I-wall wrote:Does anyone know when or if we will get any quickscat images or microwave images of this system?


QuickSCAT failed several months ago.

How much does that affect the NHC's ability to determine if a system is organized enough to be classified as a depression? How else can you tell if a system has a closed circulation if the center is covered by clouds?
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#167 Postby theavocado » Fri May 28, 2010 6:20 pm

I-wall wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:
I-wall wrote:Does anyone know when or if we will get any quickscat images or microwave images of this system?


QuickSCAT failed several months ago.

How much does that affect the NHC's ability to determine if a system is organized enough to be classified as a depression? How else can you tell if a system has a closed circulation if the center is covered by clouds?


There are still three other scatterometers flying, ASCAT, WindSat and the partially mission capable ERS-2. All three can provide the same data, but with considerably smaller swaths.

Also, to answer the earlier question, there is plenty of microwave available at the FNMOC and NRL TC Pages.
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#168 Postby tolakram » Fri May 28, 2010 6:29 pm

For example:

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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#169 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 28, 2010 6:35 pm

TD could form at any time

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT FRI MAY 28 2010

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

ALTHOUGH SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT THE SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED
WITH THE BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED A LITTLE MORE THAN A
HUNDRED MILES SOUTH OF THE GULF OF TEHUANTEPEC REMAINS ORGANIZED...
THERE ARE NO EVIDENCES OF A WELL DEFINED CENTER AT THIS TIME.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR ADDITIONAL
DEVELOPMENT... AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM AT ANY TIME
LATER TONIGHT OR SATURDAY AS IT DRIFTS NORTHEASTWARD. THERE IS A
HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. HEAVY SQUALLS ARE ALREADY
APPROACHING THE COAST OF EASTERN MEXICO AND GUATEMALA AND THE AREA
OF HEAVY RAINS EXTENDS AS FAR EAST AS EL SALVADOR. THESE RAINS ARE
LIKELY TO CONTINUE AND COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS
AND MUD SLIDES IN THESE AREAS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER AVILA/CANGIALOSI
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#170 Postby KWT » Fri May 28, 2010 6:44 pm

Looks like the first tropical depression of the EPAC season is pretty close, the banding isn't bad from the looks of those images at least on the NE side...will be interesting to watch the track of this system in the next 24-36hrs as its heads towards the coast.
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#171 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri May 28, 2010 6:44 pm

When (not really a question of "if" anymore) 90E is upgraded, what do you think the NHC will predict? A death over land or a crossover into the Caribbean/Gulf? If they go for the latterer, the news will have a different reason to annoy us with talk about the Gulf.
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#172 Postby clfenwi » Fri May 28, 2010 7:05 pm

18Z GFDL doesn't develop the low as much as the previous run did. Pretty much loses the vortex right at the coast.

HWRF maintained its develop to tropical storm before dying at sea scenario.

NHC wouldn't forecast a crossover into the Atlantic. Even the CMC's solution is more dissipate then regenerate vice a storm holding together during the crossover. I would expect their forecast to be remnant low / dissipation within 48-72 hours.
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#173 Postby HURAKAN » Fri May 28, 2010 7:08 pm

Image

Latest ... looking very close to depression status

Loop link - http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... opical.asp
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#174 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri May 28, 2010 7:16 pm

Hi everyone! I leanve to see a disorganized low, i come back to find a Low close to a TD!
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#175 Postby srainhoutx » Fri May 28, 2010 7:17 pm

I agree HURAKAN. I would not be surprised to see an upgrade a bit later IMHO.
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#176 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri May 28, 2010 7:26 pm

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A few notes i want to point out.

1)Notice the storm is in 83F plus water.
2)Notice its close to land
3)notice its slow speed

Conclusion:I think it might make 60MP beofre landfall then weaken rapidly to a TD.

Why?:It has very warm water to feed off of but it is close to land, very mountaines at that. It should make TS briefly, then weaken rapidly.

Forcast...based off of the Parameters
0 hours-X
6 hours-TD-35MPH
12 hours-TD=35 MPH
24 Hours-TS-40MPH
48 Hours-TS-60MPH, making landfall
72 Hours-TD-30MPH, inland
96 Hours-TD-25 MPH, inland
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#177 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri May 28, 2010 7:28 pm

:uarrow:
Don't about the required personal disclaimer.
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#178 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri May 28, 2010 7:30 pm

Thanks jeremey. I always forget something. *facepalm*

It looks so organzied on SHORTWAVE!

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/epac/flash-ir2.html
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Re: EPAC : INVEST 90E

#179 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 28, 2010 7:31 pm

Maybe not so fast? SSD dvorak doesn't like 90E.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/tdpositions.html

28/2345 UTC 14.1N 95.9W T1.0/1.5 90E -- East Pacific
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#180 Postby wyq614 » Fri May 28, 2010 7:36 pm

00z Best Track

EP, 90, 2010052900, , BEST, 0, 130N, 942W, 30, 1005, DB
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