WPAC: SEVERE TROPICAL STORM LUPIT (22W)

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#781 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:52 am

ozonepete wrote:I'm hoping that that ridge stays strong enough to the WEST that it blocks LUPIT from going on further west. It may be just strong enough that LUPIT will stall or loop now. What you don't want is for the ridge to build NORTH of LUPIT. Then it will be blocked on three sides and will just sit over the Philippines for days like Parma.


What are the chances of that ridge to the north rebuilding?
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#782 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:52 am

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drdavisjr wrote:"Ramil" would hardly affect Metro Manila and the rest of Luzon, Nilo said. -- Nilo is director of PAGASA (three hours ago he said this)


That's foolish to say when the track is so uncertain.


Very irresponsible. We just had guests in the house a few minutes ago. I asked them if they were ready for the storm. They said, "nah, it's not going to even rain here."

That's what happens when a city of 12 million people have a very loudmouth weather bureau chief make stupid comments like that. So, if this storm comes down, people will be relaxed already.
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#783 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:55 am

drdavisjr wrote:
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drdavisjr wrote:"Ramil" would hardly affect Metro Manila and the rest of Luzon, Nilo said. -- Nilo is director of PAGASA (three hours ago he said this)


That's foolish to say when the track is so uncertain.


Very irresponsible. We just had guests in the house a few minutes ago. I asked them if they were ready for the storm. They said, "nah, it's not going to even rain here."

That's what happens when a city of 12 million people have a very loudmouth weather bureau chief make stupid comments like that. So, if this storm comes down, people will be relaxed already.


Just like when "Ondoy" (Ketsana) hit the Metro. Nobody expected that kind of devastation, and some people are still reeling from that event..
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#784 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:56 am

Before I sleep, I wanna see PAGASA's 11 PM advisory...I'm interested as to what their model say...
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#785 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 am

ozonepete wrote:I'm hoping that that ridge stays strong enough to the WEST that it blocks LUPIT from going on further west. It may be just strong enough that LUPIT will stall or loop now. What you don't want is for the ridge to build NORTH of LUPIT. Then it will be blocked on three sides and will just sit over the Philippines for days like Parma.


That's scary stuff...
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#786 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:05 am

drdavisjr wrote:
ozonepete wrote:I'm hoping that that ridge stays strong enough to the WEST that it blocks LUPIT from going on further west. It may be just strong enough that LUPIT will stall or loop now. What you don't want is for the ridge to build NORTH of LUPIT. Then it will be blocked on three sides and will just sit over the Philippines for days like Parma.


That's scary stuff...


Very scary stuff............Wow......this has been an unbelievable turn of events...
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#787 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:09 am

based on JMA's latest update, Lupit should be moving west right now.....I don't see that happening anytime soon..
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON LUPIT (22W)

#788 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:10 am

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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON LUPIT (22W)

#789 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:11 am

latest from PAGASA...

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Typhoon "RAMIL" continues to move in a West Southwest direction and endangers Northern Luzon.
Location of Center:
(as of 10:00 p.m.) 370 km East Northeast of Aparri, Cagayan
Coordinates: 19.2°N, 125.5°E
Strength: Maximum sustained winds of 175 kph near center
and gustiness of up to 210 kph
Movement: West Southwest at 15 kph
Forecast Positions/Outlook: Thursday evening:
90 km East of Aparri, Cagayan
Friday evening:
vicinity of Laoag City
Saturday evening:
100 km West Southwest of Laoag City
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#790 Postby ozonepete » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:11 am

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ozonepete wrote:I'm hoping that that ridge stays strong enough to the WEST that it blocks LUPIT from going on further west. It may be just strong enough that LUPIT will stall or loop now. What you don't want is for the ridge to build NORTH of LUPIT. Then it will be blocked on three sides and will just sit over the Philippines for days like Parma.


What are the chances of that ridge to the north rebuilding?


Actually pretty low. Most of the global models don't build it up. The problem right now is that the steering winds are strong from the north just west of the Philippines and strong from the south on the east side. They are calm over the Philippines. LUPIT, having been embedded in an easterly flow, is getting nearer to your island, and will soon enter the zone of calmer steering winds. If it still has enough westward momentum, the northerly winds on the west side of the island will catch it, and they will drag it southwestward over the country. If it stalls out now and drifts a little eastward, the southerly winds will catch it and pull it northward away from the island. That latter case is what you would hope for of course.

And I mentioned before that it could bounce around in a tight circle (stall) between the two sterring currents and that would be really bad, unless it can stall just east of the island and keep most of its rains offshore.
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#791 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:13 am

Going to sleep now....Good night guys!
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#792 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:15 am

oaba09 wrote:Going to sleep now....Good night guys!


Ok, maybe tomorrow will bring better news.
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#793 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:16 am

oaba09 wrote:Going to sleep now....Good night guys!


Good night! Brace yourself for yet another tedious observations tomorrow... :D
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#794 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:19 am

ozonepete wrote:
metenthusiast wrote:
ozonepete wrote:I'm hoping that that ridge stays strong enough to the WEST that it blocks LUPIT from going on further west. It may be just strong enough that LUPIT will stall or loop now. What you don't want is for the ridge to build NORTH of LUPIT. Then it will be blocked on three sides and will just sit over the Philippines for days like Parma.


What are the chances of that ridge to the north rebuilding?


Actually pretty low. Most of the global models don't build it up. The problem right now is that the steering winds are strong from the north just west of the Philippines and strong from the south on the east side. They are calm over the Philippines. LUPIT, having been embedded in an easterly flow, is getting nearer to your island, and will soon enter the zone of calmer steering winds. If it still has enough westward momentum, the northerly winds on the west side of the island will catch it, and they will drag it southwestward over the country. If it stalls out now and drifts a little eastward, the southerly winds will catch it and pull it northward away from the island. That latter case is what you would hope for of course.

And I mentioned before that it could bounce around in a tight circle (stall) between the two sterring currents and that would be really bad, unless it can stall just east of the island and keep most of its rains offshore.


Okay. It makes sense now. Thanks!
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#795 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 am

ozonepete, how does the lpa located to the west of Luzon play into this, if at all. Is there are chance of interaction?
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#796 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:31 am

sorry, it is over vietnam i mean
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Re: WPAC: TYPHOON LUPIT (22W)

#797 Postby jumperitis » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:33 am

hey thanks you guys for all the input! i've been hitting refresh on this forum like crazy for the whole day! very interesting stuff! many thanks!
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#798 Postby Nika » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:42 am

Hello from Heart of Europe!

I am new at this forum which I have fortuitously found a few weeks ago. Many thanks to admin and all experienced members for sharing your knowledge and patient explanation - simply the best work, I appreciate!

Although I live in typhoonless area, I really know what does it mean to be scared of every raindrop fallen down. In 1997 and 2002, here in my country (and neighbours) were heavy floods, the worst ever, took a lot of lives, let a lot of people homeless, damaged a lot of...

Being not met expert but only weather observer (my hobby is atmospheric optics - halos, rainbows etc.) and enthusiastic novice in tropical storms, I doubt I can be helpful for now - wish I could!

I hold my fingers crossed and pray for Lupit´s weakening, recurving, dissipating or any other what can lead to ... to... happy ends.

Take care of you and stay safe and O.K. !!!

Cordially from me and my friends, Nika :wink:
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#799 Postby drdavisjr » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:57 am

My gosh, if this storm drops much further south; then moves west-southwest, we in Manila might be in BIG trouble.
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#800 Postby ozonepete » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:35 am

drdavisjr wrote:sorry, it is over vietnam i mean


By lpa you mean low pressure area? No effect. It is caught up in weak steering currents as well.
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