ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION CLAUDETTE (04L)

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#381 Postby micktooth » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:38 am

tallywx wrote:The St. George Island beach right now (just offshore of Apalachicola) is roughed up a bit right now to be sure.

http://www.beachview.com/st_george_is_640.htm

A tropical depression ain't causing that level of waves...


I would have to agree. Want to have a laugh? Click on the link to Panama City Beach Cam and watch them setting up beach chairs with a possible Tropical Storm on their doorstep :wink:
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#382 Postby OuterBanker » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:40 am

Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.
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#383 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:42 am

OuterBanker wrote:Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.


Well just a few days back people were arguing that if a storm like this was in the gulf it would be named.

I think we should simply stop commenting about it. :)
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#384 Postby artist » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:42 am

anyone know if they took off?
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#385 Postby bayoubebe » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:43 am

Hi everyone.
Just recently found out about this system.
Is this system, with a good amount of certainty, headed into Florida/Bama?
Is there any chance this would turn our way(LA.)?

I could, and do, turn into weather channel, local forecasters, etc, but I value you people's opinions........alot.

Thanks!
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#386 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:43 am

Yeah, that bulky shrimp shape is the look of a system starting to curl up. If that was in the Yucatan Channel it would attract a lot of attention. Surface clouds are starting to entrain - different from yesterday.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#387 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:44 am

Center appears to be clearing out on radar.

It's jogging around north, then west, as best I can tell. Still looks to me like landfall just a short time away.

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#388 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:45 am

Only reason it wasn't upgraded last advisory was because of recon, otherwise I bet it would be our next TS by now...
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#389 Postby jinftl » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:45 am

A tropical storm warning has been posted so residents in the warning area should be preparing accordingly. An upgrade will take place when there is concrete evidence it is merited. It may already be a ts....and the warning for that is out....let's let the TPC do its job and make classifications based on data. Isn't that how they maintain such high credibility....they go with science and sometimes that might mean waiting for a plane to give data? Again, a ts warning is in place...folks are not being 'underwarned'. The only risk that would merit an urgent upgrade is if it appeared this was becoming a hurricane.

OuterBanker wrote:Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.
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#390 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:46 am

URNT15 KNHC 161535
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#391 Postby jasons2k » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:48 am

It looks like it's quickly wrapping-up to me. Good thing it's running out of room.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#392 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:50 am

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Winds rising quickly on the backside of the center. I'm going to hazard a guess that the front right quadrant may be very close to TS strength.

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#393 Postby bayoubebe » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:51 am

I guess the rain we are fixing to get here, has nothing to do with this system?
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#394 Postby vacanechaser » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:51 am

jinftl wrote:A tropical storm warning has been posted so residents in the warning area should be preparing accordingly. An upgrade will take place when there is concrete evidence it is merited. It may already be a ts....and the warning for that is out....let's let the TPC do its job and make classifications based on data. Isn't that how they maintain such high credibility....they go with science and sometimes that might mean waiting for a plane to give data? Again, a ts warning is in place...folks are not being 'underwarned'.

OuterBanker wrote:Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.



thats not the point... i think folks have grown tired of the inconsistency of the nhc lately.... this thing looks way better than ana right now... i mean come on...no one has been a bigger supporter of them in the past than me, because i know most of then.. just like last year off the carolina coast... i was there, it should have had a name...



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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#395 Postby Pearl River » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:52 am

The circulation appears to be small. The rain and showers out in the gom south of Pensacola west to N.O are moving W to WNW and not from N to S as they would be with a larger system's circulation.


http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=LIX&product=N0Z&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
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#396 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:52 am

bayoubebe wrote:Hi everyone.
Just recently found out about this system.
Is this system, with a good amount of certainty, headed into Florida/Bama?
Is there any chance this would turn our way(LA.)?

I could, and do, turn into weather channel, local forecasters, etc, but I value you people's opinions........alot.

Thanks!


I dont think so. This will be inland by the end of the day, it does not have enough time to reach you guys, this is a Florida system.
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#397 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 am

vacanechaser wrote:
jinftl wrote:A tropical storm warning has been posted so residents in the warning area should be preparing accordingly. An upgrade will take place when there is concrete evidence it is merited. It may already be a ts....and the warning for that is out....let's let the TPC do its job and make classifications based on data. Isn't that how they maintain such high credibility....they go with science and sometimes that might mean waiting for a plane to give data? Again, a ts warning is in place...folks are not being 'underwarned'.

OuterBanker wrote:Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.



thats not the point... i think folks have grown tired of the inconsistency of the nhc lately.... this thing looks way better than ana right now... i mean come on...no one has been a bigger supporter of them in the past than me, because i know most of then.. just like last year off the carolina coast... i was there, it should have had a name...


But as they said in the discussion. A plane is in route. Why should they upgrade until the plane verifies? If the upgraded and the plane found it to be just a depression .... I'm really not understanding the criticism here.
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#398 Postby bayoubebe » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:
bayoubebe wrote:Hi everyone.
Just recently found out about this system.
Is this system, with a good amount of certainty, headed into Florida/Bama?
Is there any chance this would turn our way(LA.)?

I could, and do, turn into weather channel, local forecasters, etc, but I value you people's opinions........alot.

Thanks!


I dont think so. This will be inland by the end of the day, it does not have enough time to reach you guys, this is a Florida system.


Thank you for the reply.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR (04L)

#399 Postby BigA » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:55 am

The angle of attack on the coast for this system is critical, as a small deviation can mean an additional 3-4 hours over water. The big question is whether it clears the spit of land southeast of Panama City. If it does, it will have most of the day over water.
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#400 Postby jinftl » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:56 am

I respect your views, but i think we will have to agree to disagree. I believe we will have Claudette before long and the only delay (although, as i noted, warnings are already in place for a ts) is that of the logistics of getting in the system and getting accurate readings and measurements.

If there were not ts warnings already in place, i would 100% agree that an intermediate upgrade, even based on satellite, would be merited. Waiting an hour or two at this point should not effect how folks should prepare with a ts warning in place. This is not an evacuation-risk situation. This is a windy rainstorm approaching land quickly.

vacanechaser wrote:
jinftl wrote:A tropical storm warning has been posted so residents in the warning area should be preparing accordingly. An upgrade will take place when there is concrete evidence it is merited. It may already be a ts....and the warning for that is out....let's let the TPC do its job and make classifications based on data. Isn't that how they maintain such high credibility....they go with science and sometimes that might mean waiting for a plane to give data? Again, a ts warning is in place...folks are not being 'underwarned'.

OuterBanker wrote:Just can't figure out TPC. This is better formed and stronger than Ana ever was. It's a tropical storm, name it an get over it TPC.



thats not the point... i think folks have grown tired of the inconsistency of the nhc lately.... this thing looks way better than ana right now... i mean come on...no one has been a bigger supporter of them in the past than me, because i know most of then.. just like last year off the carolina coast... i was there, it should have had a name...



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