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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#541 Postby StJoe » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:20 am

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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#542 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:21 am

06z GFDL runs north of the Antilles.
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#543 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:22 am

I wonder whether the redevelopment of TD2 will throw a curveball in the situation because obviously if it does form when it does lift out, its surely going to leave a nice big weakness that a strong 90L won't be able to resist...
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#544 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:25 am

Well the next round of models start coming out soon Sanibel, will be interesting to see what the 12z GFS does and also whether TD2 is stronger on this cycle?
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#545 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:25 am

Current shear map via WISC shows its leaving a 20 knot area and entering a small pocket of very low shear, then onto crazy 40kt. Granted it may change by the time it gets there.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#546 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:27 am

In my opinion TD2 is up in the air because other waves before TD2 have shown impressive displays of recovery only to dissipate the next morning. If this was another year I would say TD2 is on its way to development. If it does deepen it should affect 90L.

That GFS model run posted on the last page shows an intensifying cyclone smashing Puerto Rico before turning towards Florida as an intense cyclone.
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#547 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:29 am

Yep surely a stronger TD2 will recurve which is going to leave a weakness that 90L will at least jog towards if nothing else. Think thats going to ruin the GFS idea of a gulf hit!
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#548 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:34 am

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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#549 Postby Emmett_Brown » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:43 am

Probably a silly question, but does anyone know if the GIV mission being flown near ex TD2 will provide data for the models? I don't have any info about the purpose of the mission, so just curious.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#550 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:47 am

Anyone have the latest track graphic for 90L?
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#551 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:55 am

Yeah shear is likely going to be an issue till about 40W IMO, still its got a good broad circulation which has a large area of moist air to work with TD2 is going to be helping out again it appears by mixing some of it out.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#552 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:55 am

Sanibel wrote:Anyone have the latest track graphic for 90L?


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Pretty amazing consensus.
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#553 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:59 am

12Z GFS - out to 60 hours so far -

Building a nice strong mid-level ridge on top of what's either a TD or a TS at about 42W ...
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#554 Postby artist » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:00 am

it really is. What are each of the models predicting its strength at the end of their runs? Anyone have a link to easily find this in one place?
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#555 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:02 am

Just south of 15N at 50W at the moment on the 12z GFS...

Still heading towards the NE Caribbean it seems.
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#556 Postby lester » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:06 am

KWT wrote:Yeah shear is likely going to be an issue till about 40W IMO, still its got a good broad circulation which has a large area of moist air to work with TD2 is going to be helping out again it appears by mixing some of it out.


that poor brave little low :(
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#557 Postby Sambucol » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:06 am

KWT wrote:Yep surely a stronger TD2 will recurve which is going to leave a weakness that 90L will at least jog towards if nothing else. Think thats going to ruin the GFS idea of a gulf hit!


I thought that TD2 has died. Are you talking about a re-emergence of what was once TD2? Thanks.
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#558 Postby Scorpion » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:11 am

12Z GFS is pretty much unchanged through 5 days
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#559 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:12 am

x-y-no wrote:12Z GFS - out to 60 hours so far -

Building a nice strong mid-level ridge on top of what's either a TD or a TS at about 42W ...

So given that you tkink that a recurve is quite difficult for the islands?
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#560 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:12 am

Antilles hit again(this has been EXTREMELY consistent):

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