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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#401 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:42 pm

Stormcenter wrote:How can you put any weight on a model (GFS) that goes from the upper East Coast to Florida to Alabama in one day......LMAOF!!!!!!!!!


I look for trends in long-range and 2 runs in a row in the Gulf is a trend IMO. It might trend the other way tomorrow but for now that's about all we have to go on.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#402 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:42 pm

Why does anyone care what the GFS says past 180 hours?

As was mentioned above, the GFS is consistently hitting the Leeward Islands and Puerto Rico. The fact that you would throw out an entire model run because it keeps changing what it does in 14 days is ridiculous.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#403 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:42 pm

anything beyond 7 days is garbage because some uncertain things happen in a model, this may or may not be the final solution
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#404 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:42 pm

Have you been keeping up with the GFS lately....enough said.


Evil Jeremy wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Garbage run IMO.

PTrackerLA wrote:Wow the GFS is starting to hate the Gulf Coast too.


Just wondering, what is your thinking behind this run? Why do you think this one is garbage?
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#405 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:43 pm

cycloneye wrote:Yesterday,TV Met Ada Monzon of Univision in Puerto Rico told the audience that this weekend is a good time to start preparing for a close call or maybe a direct hit as the models haved been very consistant in bringing Ana close or over Puerto Rico.

:eek: :eek: Pretty affirmative like that?, hummm not so good Luis! :oops: Nobody is talking about that in Guadeloupe, our Pro mets are speaking about ex TD2...
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#406 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:45 pm

It's a credible trend when it's another model maybe but the GFS 13 days out.....no way.

Brent wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:How can you put any weight on a model (GFS) that goes from the upper East Coast to Florida to Alabama in one day......LMAOF!!!!!!!!!


I look for trends in long-range and 2 runs in a row in the Gulf is a trend IMO. It might trend the other way tomorrow but for now that's about all we have to go on.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#407 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:46 pm

better to see it coming at you now (200hrs+) than be in the 3 day cone!
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#408 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:47 pm

Who cares what the GFS says 13 days out?

The fact that its constantly drilling Puerto Rico in 7 days is what people should be focusing on.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#409 Postby Scorpion » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:53 pm

RL3AO wrote:Who cares what the GFS says 13 days out?

The fact that its constantly drilling Puerto Rico in 7 days is what people should be focusing on.


Totally agreed. The truncation after hour 180 just makes the accuracy horrendous.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#410 Postby Macrocane » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:09 am

I think that people living in the gulf should care I mean, it has no consistency at this time but it is a possibility, panic is no good obviously, it's just that people on the GOM have to keep an eye on it and wait to see what happens on the next few days.
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#411 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:15 am

I think the media will be having a field day with this one. I can already imagine it being compared to Andrew with it being the first storm in an El Nino year in the middle of August. If (and likely when) this becomes a hurricane, we might not hear the end of it from the media.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L

#412 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:19 am

This one bears watching, especially next week.
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#413 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:22 am

00 UTC GFDL

WHXX04 KWBC 140518
CHGQLM
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST 90L

INITIAL TIME 0Z AUG 14

DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)

0 11.9 23.8 270./ 7.0
6 12.2 25.7 280./18.4
12 12.4 27.4 275./16.8
18 12.2 29.5 264./20.9
24 11.8 30.7 253./11.8
30 11.7 31.4 263./ 7.3
36 11.8 32.5 272./10.5
42 12.0 33.6 281./11.0
48 12.1 35.2 276./16.2
54 12.0 36.8 264./14.7
60 12.6 38.1 294./14.8
66 13.1 39.9 286./18.3
72 13.9 41.7 295./18.5
78 14.5 43.8 285./21.0
84 15.1 45.8 286./20.8
90 15.5 47.8 281./19.9
96 15.9 49.6 282./17.3
102 16.2 51.2 282./15.6
108 16.7 52.8 286./16.5
114 17.1 54.5 285./16.3
120 17.4 55.9 280./13.8
126 17.8 57.4 287./15.3
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#414 Postby paintplaye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:24 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:I think the media will be having a field day with this one. I can already imagine it being compared to Andrew with it being the first storm in an El Nino year in the middle of August. If (and likely when) this becomes a hurricane, we might not hear the end of it from the media.


Yea and the media is going to do more damage than the storm itself. :lol:
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#415 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:31 am

00z CMC slams into the Lesser Antilles as run ends.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#416 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:40 am

00 HWRF shows a huge recurve on this run. Completely misses the Islands.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#417 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:42 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:00 HWRF shows a huge recurve on this run. Completely misses the Islands.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation


hwrf is out to lunch this year.. it had td2 re curving tomorrow.. lol

gfdl is much slower and more west..
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#418 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:45 am

wait hwrf.. does not recurve....

its actually more west and slower as well...
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#419 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:45 am

That is the run for ex TD2 :)
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Re: ATL: Invest 90L Models

#420 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:45 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:00 HWRF shows a huge recurve on this run. Completely misses the Islands.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation


Dont know what happened there..Go to this link, it shows a monster hurricane in a general direction to the northern islands...

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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