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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#921 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:56 pm

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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#922 Postby Stephanie » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:11 pm

I find it hard to believe that Ahmadinejad is ahead by so much as well.
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#923 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:32 pm

Head of the Elections Headquarters Kamran Daneshjoo told reporters Saturday morning that 31,369 ballot boxes had been counted until 3:40 am which were 68 percent of the total boxes.
According to Daneshjoo, out of 24,122,777 counted votes, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has got 15,913,256 votes which constitutes 65.96 percent of the total counted votes.
Mir Hossein Moussavi has got 7,526,117 votes which is 31.19 percent, Mohsen Rezaee has got 470,549 votes that is 1.95 percent and Mahdi Karroubi has got only 212,855 votes which is 0.88 per


If it were a closer race like Florida 2000 there would be a lot more suspicion.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#924 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:01 pm

Maybe I am naive, and I must admit I haven't been following the news of the Iranian elections, but did anyone really believe that it would be a fair election with the control Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seems to have over the military,etc. in Iran?
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#925 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:09 pm

this is NOT the election that matters. It is the grand council election that happened in 2006 that has the most bearing on the military as that is the body that elects the supreme leader, who controls the military, etc.

Ahmadinejads candidates were crushed in that election
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#926 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:15 pm

Ahmadinejad declared the winner of election

Ahmadinejad wins but challenger wants a recount

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#927 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:23 pm

cycloneye wrote:Ahmadinejad declared the winner of election

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Doesn't matter, mullah's declare who is eligible, and even the 'moderates' hate the Jews and want the Bomb.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#928 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:23 am

Followers of defeated candidate spark riots.

Riots in the streets of TEHRAN
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#929 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:13 am

Moussavi was placed on the leadership council of "Lebanese" terror group Hezb'Allah by the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1982, he is 'moderate' only in the Iranian definition.


Iran has been at war with the US through its Arab Foreign Legion (aka Hezb'Allah) for almost thirty years. The Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia was not al Qaeda, it was Hezb'Allah, and Iran was behind the bombing of a Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires.

Iran has almost certainly been arming anti-US Shia militias in Iraq.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#930 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:42 pm

Riots spread in Iran

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- As street protests and voter skepticism rose over Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's election victory, the incumbent leader hailed the vote, saying it was a "great ordeal" but one that pointed "the way to the future."

"The people of Iran inspired hope for all nations and created a source of pride in the nation and disappointed all the ill wishers," Ahmadinejad said in a nationwide TV address Saturday night. "This election was held at a juncture of history."

The government said on Saturday that Ahmadinejad won Friday's presidential election with 62.63 percent of the vote and Mir Hossein Moussavi received 33.75 percent of the vote.

But while he extolled the result and the huge turnout, Moussavi and supporters in the Tehran streets are crying foul as street clashes have erupted in the aftermath of the polls. Reaction emerged across the world, as countries such as the United States and Canada voiced concern over claims of voter irregularities.

The ongoing street protests have been viewed as remarkable in a country where anti-government sentiment is not looked upon kindly by those in power. In the aftermath of the vote, street protesters and riot police engaged in running battles, with stones thrown, garbage cans set on fire and people shouting "death to the dictatorship." Watch as riot police disperse protesters »

People leaned out of windows and balconies to watch the throngs of protesters march, many of whom were Moussavi supporters and conducted largely noisy but peaceful demonstrations.

Later in the evening, an agitated and angry crowd emerged in Tehran's Moseni Square, with people breaking into shops, starting fires and tearing down signs. Two sides of people faced off against each other in the square, throwing rocks and bottles and shouting angrily.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast ... index.html
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#931 Postby x-y-no » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:59 pm

I'm seeing some disturbing reports of crackdowns in Iran ...

Telephone communication between Tehran and the rest of Iran has been completely disconnected. This corresponds with the beginnings of the arrests of the opposition. It is suspected that this is being orchestrated by the son of Mojtaba Khamenei son of The Supreme Leader, Ali.


and this report of push-back on the election result:

A committee of respected Ayatollahs (the spiritual fighters) have requested that the election be invalidated for the purpose of restoring the people’s trust in the Islamic Republic. We request the people to stay calm and not to provoke the government agents.


Unfortunately, the site I got this off of is a political site - I'm not going to link to it from here. If anyone here can read Arabic, the original sources for these reports are Here and Here.
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#932 Postby MGC » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:34 pm

I hope they burn down Iran.....MGC
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#933 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:49 pm

It seems Iran is on the verge of a civil war, but I fear if the Guard is used to supress the demonstrations (peaceful or not), many, many people will die.

Just think about what China did in the Square to peaceful demonstrators.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff=Protests spread in Iran

#934 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:12 pm

In case anyone didnt see my post about why we are discussing about the Iran elections and unrest there is because it has big implications about the theme of this thread,the Iran Nuclear Standoff and how the reelected president Ahmadinejad will deal with the pressure that the U.S.,Israel and the Europeans are doing to force Iran to dismantle its Nuclear Program.This situation about what happens with the Nuclear Standoff,also has economic implications as Iran is one of the biggest exporters of oil in the world.

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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#935 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:17 pm

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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#936 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:16 am

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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#937 Postby x-y-no » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:56 am



Of course he does. :roll: :roll:

This was the most blatant case of election fraud I've ever seen. They didn't even try to make the numbers look believable.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#938 Postby lurkey » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:13 am

Anyone who is upset over #cnnfail, because they did screw up badly with coverage the election and the aftermath . . .. #iranelection with links to BBC Persia and other independent coverage, like this video
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#939 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:22 am

x-y-no wrote:


Of course he does. :roll: :roll:

This was the most blatant case of election fraud I've ever seen. They didn't even try to make the numbers look believable.


but this election is not all that important.

If we see similar numbers in the next assemble of experts election in favor of his candidates, then we need to be worried as he could then take total control
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#940 Postby Cryomaniac » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:05 am

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