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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1761 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:01 pm

wow...that is intense...i thought it was a bug on my screen at first.

Given the forecast changes we have seen with ike in the last few days....take heart that the next model run will probably be right or left. And then left or right. Repeated a couple of times.

HurricaneRobert wrote:This is the worst frame I have ever seen from this model:

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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1762 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:01 pm

Texas is in play with GFDL in this 18z run.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation
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#1763 Postby shah8 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:01 pm

HWRF 18z is doom. period.
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#1764 Postby vaffie » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:03 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:SETexas without a doubt is back in the game with this storm. Models are definitely shifting west.


For sure. What a horrible thought. It would be quite amazing if it actually reached all the way here in the middle of September, but the models are certainly trending here, that's for sure. I think by the 0Z runs on Tuesday morning (from 12 am to 2 am)--in 54 hours from now, the models will converge, and we will have a pretty good idea whether the storm will hit SE LA, C LA, SW LA, SE TX, C TX or S TX. At least that's when I will feel like I know.
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#1765 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:03 pm

shah8 wrote:HWRF 18z is doom. period.


Link please to the "doom".
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#1766 Postby perk » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:04 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:I don't think the point is that it stalls or not...it's just that sadly, GFS doesn't see an effective enough Front to keep this away from turning...


That justifies landfall starting from SW LA to the Panhandle...a massive cone of error.




How did you come up with SW LA to the Panhandle. If you plot those coordinates you can easily see that the GFDL has Ike moving WNW almost due west at the end. I can easily make a case further west than Louisiana.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1767 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:04 pm

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#1768 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

Geez..what a shift!
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1769 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z HWRF says hello to Texas.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation


No way I buy into this. I expect a change and a change and ......
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#1770 Postby Duddy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:SETexas without a doubt is back in the game with this storm. Models are definitely shifting west.


Well crap.
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#1771 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:07 pm

Not another Rita scenarios.
I just can't see this panning out.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1772 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:08 pm

A track like that would be a national catastrophe.
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#1773 Postby shah8 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:10 pm

Hey! don't forget to have pity for the Cubans! Double-hit by major hurricane landfalls. Two, count'em, TWO cat 4 landfalls from Ike on Cuba. Then the hypercane proposal in the gulf.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1774 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:11 pm

I think the thing to remember is that neither of these models show a landfall...they show a stall. I still think if this stalls south of LA, there no way it goes to texas. GFS showed as much with a 2 day meander then landfall in Vermillion. Stall will basically lead it to wait for a weakness = landfall vermillion bay eastward. Where it stops I think is about as far west as this will get before a turn due north or NNE.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1775 Postby Frank P » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:11 pm

Is it me or does it seem like every night the Ike models shift west, then in the morning they shift back to the east, then the cycle repeats again...
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1776 Postby Duddy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:12 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:A track like that would be a national catastrophe.


Beyond 126 hours wouldn't it shirt North towards the middle-upper Texas Gulf coast?

After tracking these things for soo long, I just can't see it going to Brownsville or Corpus. Maybe all the people praying in LA are effecting the track.
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#1777 Postby Cyclenall » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:13 pm

I'm stunned at the way the models are shifting. Now Texas could be at risk if the models continue showing a more west movement at the end? If anyone had said that Texas could be at risk by Ike (2 days ago), they would be called crazy and stupid by all.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1778 Postby Duddy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:13 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z HWRF says hello to Texas.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation


What's is the strength of Ike in that last frame? Cat 4?
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#1779 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:14 pm

Frank P wrote:Is it me or does it seem like every night the Ike models shift west, then in the morning they shift back to the east, then the cycle repeats again...



You are correct. I'm sticking with a landfall east of 88.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Ike Model Runs

#1780 Postby Duddy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:16 pm

mattpetre wrote:The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

I told my wife I'd take a break from hurricane watching until this became more of a threat to the GOM or our area, but a bet with Shiner involved is too hard to turn down. I'm putting up my 10+ days map right here and now and willing to take anyone in the Galleria area of Houston (I know you are Ed) out for a few beers after the storm or even better I'll happily go let you buy me a few... So here's my forecast track 10+ days out and I'm going to stick to it no matter how painful it may get 5 or 6 days from now :)

So here it is, anything in the extremely small cone (at us landfall) gets me many beers and even more headaches in other ways (I really don't want to see this and I realize it's just a strange form of -removed-).

*THIS IS THE POSTER'S IMAGE AND NOT IN ANY WAY TIED TO AN ACTUAL FORECAST PATH OR NHC OPINION*
*IT IS ONLY AN AMATEUR'S ATTEMPT AT PREDICTIVE MODELLING VERY FAR INTO THE FUTURE*
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