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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10101 Postby PhillyWX » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:42 pm

Updated Images from NOLA TV (for those with slower bandwidth):

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#10102 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:43 pm

Looks like the worse of the tornado threat has finally gotten past my immediate area. That was an impressive funnel cloud I saw though, rather suprising because I was thinking I would see more of a waterspout appearance rather than an actual good size funnel.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10103 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:43 pm

Calistar wrote:
Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.

They did do that after Katrina... Kathleen Blanco, Mary Landrieu, David Vitter and a whole contingent of Louisiana officials went over there to find out if they could do something similar in Louisiana... they were told by the Fed. Gov't. that it was way too expensive of a project to take on...

lives are too expensive to save
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10104 Postby SoupBone » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:44 pm

Look at the radar guys....here in BR we are in the northern eyewall right now. Very nasty winds now. I'm about a mile from blue bayou (which is about 1.5 miles from the ascension parish line) where there was a reported tornado but I have not seen any indication of one. The trees are cracking behind my house. Looks like around 10 trees have been downed so far. Still surprisingly not all that bad but the winds sure are getting worse.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10105 Postby tailgater » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:45 pm

Here in Ascension parish my guess would be 55MPH and gust over 65. I have numerous tree tops knocked down with one of them in my garage.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10106 Postby Shawee » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:45 pm

Calistar wrote:
Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.

They did do that after Katrina... Kathleen Blanco, Mary Landrieu, David Vitter and a whole contingent of Louisiana officials went over there to find out if they could do something similar in Louisiana... they were told by the Fed. Gov't. that it was way too expensive of a project to take on...


the corps actally started construction on a gate system 40 years ago for Chef Pass and the Rigolets that would have stopped a surge from getting into Lake Pontchartrain. They opted on the "cheaper" interior levee system... i don't think it is cheaper now by a long shot. The USACE has been dragging it's feet on even pricing out the "cat 5" protection congress told them to report on... unfortunately, i think we have let environmetalist drive the bus, also. We can have gates and the environment, too!
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10107 Postby Calistar » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:45 pm

Innotech wrote:
Calistar wrote:
Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.

They did do that after Katrina... Kathleen Blanco, Mary Landrieu, David Vitter and a whole contingent of Louisiana officials went over there to find out if they could do something similar in Louisiana... they were told by the Fed. Gov't. that it was way too expensive of a project to take on...

lives are too expensive to save

yeah, sad huh? ... :cry:
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10108 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:46 pm

Around 500,000 are without power in LA, phones and gas lines are still functional.
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#10109 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:46 pm

Be careful you guys, I'd stay in a safe room right now.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10110 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:48 pm

If you're getting very heavy tropical downpours it's going to be very difficult to see a tornado. Sometimes the amount of rain falling will obscure the funnel cloud...which can be a particularly dangerous situation.
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#10111 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:49 pm

heeere come the big winds.
I expect to lose power very soon. Ill report back as soon as possible (which could be tomorrow or several days unless our generator has enough power to run a computer)
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10112 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:50 pm

Innotech wrote:heeere come the big winds.
I expect to lose power very soon. Ill report back as soon as possible (which could be tomorrow or several days unless our generator has enough power to run a computer)


Stay safe!
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10113 Postby SoupBone » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:50 pm

Innotech wrote:heeere come the big winds.
I expect to lose power very soon. Ill report back as soon as possible (which could be tomorrow or several days unless our generator has enough power to run a computer)



I'm pretty fortunate here. I have a 7000watt generator. It's been going since 10:30. Got all my essential stuff going right now. Thank God for generators.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10114 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:52 pm

Governor of Louisiana reports scrap navy vessels have broken loose (unsure of the area). I believe this is related to the bridge issue mentioned earlier (tugs need to get through? My feed froze sporadically).
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10115 Postby crazycajuncane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:53 pm

Generator is now up and running! We just lost it I think it may be out for a long time.

South Lafayette and got a huge band of weather headed this way.

One of the three hundred without power lol.
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#10116 Postby Chacor » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:53 pm

WTNT52 KNHC 011753
TCEAT2
HURRICANE GUSTAV TROPICAL CYCLONE POSITION ESTIMATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL072008
100 PM CDT MON SEP 01 2008

AT 1 PM CDT...1800 UTC...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE GUSTAV WAS
ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 29.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 91.3 WEST OR ABOUT
55 MILES...90 KM...SOUTHEAST OF LAFAYETTE LOUISIANA AND NEAR MORGAN
CITY LOUISIANA.

DURING THE LAST HOUR...THE NATIONAL OCEAN SERVICE AUTOMATED STATION
AT AMERADA PASS LOUISIANA REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 61 MPH...98
KM/HR...AND A WIND GUST OF 82 MPH...132 KM/HR.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10117 Postby MGC » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:55 pm

Here in Pass Christian, the power has been out since 9:30. Still gusty winds and heavy rain....MGC
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#10118 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:55 pm

crazycajuncane wrote:Generator is now up and running! We just lost it I think it may be out for a long time.

South Lafayette and got a huge band of weather headed this way.

One of the three hundred without power lol.

I think my dads generators are lower power so we will be running essential thingsl ike the fridges and maybe radios/tv. Not much else.
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#10119 Postby soonertwister » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:56 pm

Hurricane Hanna now.

Hurricane warnings up for Turks and Caicos and southern Bahama Islands.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10120 Postby crazycajuncane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:57 pm

Innotech wrote:
crazycajuncane wrote:Generator is now up and running! We just lost it I think it may be out for a long time.

South Lafayette and got a huge band of weather headed this way.

One of the three hundred without power lol.

I think my dads generators are lower power so we will be running essential thingsl ike the fridges and maybe radios/tv. Not much else.


My step dad knows an electrician. They have it hooked up to where everything besides the A/C and washer and driers are not connected. We have one room with a window unit, so that'll be where we gather to sleep in the cool. The house has warmed up very quickly.
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