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Re: ATL:Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#401 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:39 am

BREAKING NEWS=Best Track increases the winds to 35kts.

AL, 08, 2008082812, , BEST, 0, 203N, 587W, 35, 1002, TS
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#402 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:40 am

Hello Hanna!!!(unofficially ofcourse)
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#403 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:41 am

Yep We've now got Hanna, hardly surprising given the structure of the system right now.
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#404 Postby Cryomaniac » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:42 am

KWT wrote:Yep We've now got Hanna, hardly surprising given the structure of the system right now.


Looks like it. Now we wait for the NHC.
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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#405 Postby lbvbl » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:42 am

I have a question... I'm very much an amateur with this stuff so this probably sounds dumb, but is it true that the stronger a storm gets, the easier it is to forecast the track?
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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#406 Postby AJC3 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:47 am

lbvbl wrote:I have a question... I'm very much an amateur with this stuff so this probably sounds dumb, but is it true that the stronger a storm gets, the easier it is to forecast the track?


Two words: No. Mitch.
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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#407 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:51 am

lbvbl wrote:I have a question... I'm very much an amateur with this stuff so this probably sounds dumb, but is it true that the stronger a storm gets, the easier it is to forecast the track?


easier to follow on satellite, none of this oh i see a center there or there or wait maybe its over there but the flow is the flow and sometimes it doesn't behave as the modeling and forecasts would like no matter how intense they get, we have had some real fun ones over the years.
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#408 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:52 am

NRL site has hanna
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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#409 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:53 am

AJC3 wrote:
lbvbl wrote:I have a question... I'm very much an amateur with this stuff so this probably sounds dumb, but is it true that the stronger a storm gets, the easier it is to forecast the track?


Two words: No. Mitch.


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That's about as simple as you can put it and get the needed point across...great response AJC3.

For those of you that are not familiar with Mitch please read the archives from the 1998 season. Also, a side note, a book was written about a Windjammer Ship that was lost during the storm. The book is called The Ship and The Storm. It is a very good read and if you have time you should check it out.

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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#410 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:53 am

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Re: T D Eight in C Atlantic=Best Track increases winds to 35kts

#411 Postby sally » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:02 am

The Fantome was the Windjammer that went down in Mitch. It really hit home when it happened as we had a fantastic two weeks on her a number of years ago. She was in the West Indies then.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#412 Postby tgenius » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:16 am

As others have said, the fact the EURO has been on board with this coming towards FL for a week isn't very re-assuring.. if we get major model agreement, then it becomes an even bleaker forecast.

I HATE hurricanes as I'm involved in our company's BCP plan and it evokes stuff that I don't want to go through. :(
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#413 Postby alienstorm » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:17 am

Westerly shear is still there, last high resolution visible shows LLC exposed in the western semicircle. Shear needs to relax seems to be moving slowly westward.

http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/satelli ... &lon=-58.7
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#414 Postby AJC3 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:18 am

You can clearly see the exposed center to the NW of the main ball of convection now.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#415 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:19 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#416 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:25 am

tgenius wrote:As others have said, the fact the EURO has been on board with this coming towards FL for a week isn't very re-assuring.. if we get major model agreement, then it becomes an even bleaker forecast.

I HATE hurricanes as I'm involved in our company's BCP plan and it evokes stuff that I don't want to go through. :(


thats the thing we have pretty good model consensus now with all models forecasting a WSW motion at the end of the forecast with a blocking ridge in place which by the way is the same one that will slow gustav's motion as well, so knowing that shows how far west the ridge is forecast to extend which would mostly likely mean at the least a very close approach to florida with watches and warnings likely as well, if that pans out.
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#417 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:27 am

:uarrow:

GFS is on board with the big Bermuda High feature that would steer Hanna west. I posted the GFS 500MB model in the models thread.

The consensus seems to be increasing amongst the big global models on a west bend and big Bermuda High feature.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Depression Eight in Central Atlantic

#418 Postby JPmia » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:27 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
tgenius wrote:As others have said, the fact the EURO has been on board with this coming towards FL for a week isn't very re-assuring.. if we get major model agreement, then it becomes an even bleaker forecast.

I HATE hurricanes as I'm involved in our company's BCP plan and it evokes stuff that I don't want to go through. :(


thats the thing we have pretty good model consensus now with all models forecasting a WSW motion at the end of the forecast with a blocking ridge in place which by the way is the same one that will slow gustav's motion as well, so knowing that shows how far west the ridge is forecast to extend which would mostly likely mean at the least a very close approach to florida with watches and warnings likely as well, if that pans out.


how many days away are we talking here?
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#419 Postby storms in NC » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:29 am

If she keeps going like she is 8-10 days all up to her speed
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#420 Postby tgenius » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 am

I think we would be looking at next weekend sometime on sat/sun based on what I've seen, but of course thats all unknown at the moment.
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