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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3741 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:29 pm

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Ivanhater wrote:Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati


Ivanhater, go back and read some of Derek's posts...I think he's on to something..Appears to be heading to Eastern Cuba, and it may do a number on whatever is left of the storm.

I've seen Derek call these things before and a few hours later the NHC is saying the same thing...that's why I listen to what he says...


Ive been in class, but after looking Derek has said nothing like that..and it would be irresponsible for him to do that which is why he didnt...this is a potential disaster and with no models showing this going over land and environmental conditions looking great which is why the models showing RI, calling it dead being likely is humorous, but hey Im with yall, Im hoping, but just dont see it happening
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3742 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:30 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Funny thing is that I kept mentioning the ULL and the shear possibilities that would affect Gustav yesterday but I didn't get much of a response.....

:wink:



Gator, don't think its so much the ULL...Its just now moving away from the eastern side of that ridge...


Did the ridge get eroded on the west side?
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#3743 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:30 pm

Not yet.
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#3744 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:31 pm

Thanks delta! Do you think the track will shift east or west during the next
few days?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3745 Postby oyster_reef » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:32 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Funny thing is that I kept mentioning the ULL and the shear possibilities that would affect Gustav yesterday but I didn't get much of a response.....

:wink:



Gator, don't think its so much the ULL...Its just now moving away from the eastern side of that ridge...


this was expained to him 4 hours ago by a pro met.
keep it honest gator!
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#3746 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:32 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Thanks delta! Do you think the track will shift east or west during the next
few days?



Don't really know to be honest....
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#3747 Postby twister » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:33 pm

haml8 wrote:
twister wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:DIE, Gustav, DIE!!!

That would be fantastic!



HERE HERE!! With you on that one!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A


ROFLMBO!!! I was thinking about posting something along the lines of Monty! I think we all could use a good laugh about now!!
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#3748 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:33 pm

Thanks! Yes this stuff is really tricky to forecast.
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#3749 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:35 pm

In the most recent VIS photo, Gustav has almost a trough-like appearance:

http://www.geocities.com/floridaweathersummary/gustav
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#3750 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:36 pm

Frank2 wrote:In the most recent VIS photo, Gustav has almost a trough-like appearance:

http://www.geocities.com/floridaweathersummary/gustav


Yea I see that trough-type shape...this is very confusing to me...
Right now I am in a big fog of confusion...the forecast was intensification
but I have no clue...
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#3751 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:38 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-wv.html

Actually I see his enviroment becoming better slowly. Ouflow is already improving on the western and especially the northern side...Go ahead and think this might die...
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#3752 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:39 pm

For those thinking it will do nothing if it enters the Gulf or NW Caribbean as nothing, consider these:

1900 Galveston Hurricane - tropical storm entering the Gulf, strong Category 4 in the NW Gulf before possibly weakening a bit

Hurricane Celia - tropical depression off Cuba entering the Gulf, Category 3/4 at landfall in TX

Hurricane Frederic - tropical storm entering the Gulf, Category 4 off the AL coast before weakening slightly

Hurricane Opal - tropical depression entering the Gulf, strong Category 4 in the Loop Current before weakening

Hurricane Lili - tropical storm approaching W Cuba, Category 4 off the LA coast before rapid weakening

Hurricane Wilma - tropical wave entering the NW Caribbean, we know what happened next...
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#3753 Postby dwg71 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:39 pm

He's in life support atm, (imo) - no way its at TS strength.
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#3754 Postby twister » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:40 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:
Frank2 wrote:In the most recent VIS photo, Gustav has almost a trough-like appearance:

http://www.geocities.com/floridaweathersummary/gustav


Yea I see that trough-type shape...this is very confusing to me...
Right now I am in a big fog of confusion...the forecast was intensification
but I have no clue...



Gus took a beating over DR and Haiti. He is trying to get his composure back.
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#3755 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:40 pm

The fact that one of the recent discussions mentioned slowly getting
better organized now seems to make sense but adds confusion to my
confounded integration of the aforementioned satellite image.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3756 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:40 pm

Well it has stopped weakening(however weak it is). Pressure down 1 mb per recon.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3757 Postby cpdaman » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:41 pm

gatorcane wrote:Funny thing is that I kept mentioning the ULL and the shear possibilities that would affect Gustav yesterday but I didn't get much of a response.....

:wink:


was right there with you, i like to now cast, especially when a storm has multiple body's of land full of people to hit or dodge first
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#3758 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:41 pm

Last VDM showed a partial eyewall still with Gustav...
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#3759 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:41 pm

Oh nevermind, delta I see what you're saying.

Gustav is starting to reintensify.
It will likely follow the NHC forecast.
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#3760 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:41 pm

dwg71 wrote:He's in life support atm, (imo) - no way its at TS strength.


Unless I see an exposed center, this is not on life support..of course it has weakened, but this is not in the middle of a big land mass...hot waters around
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