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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3721 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:15 pm

Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3722 Postby Noles2006 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:16 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati



I think it's more likely than you think...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3723 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:17 pm

New EURO - Cat 3/4 west of NOLA on Tues....FWIW
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3724 Postby TideJoe » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:17 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati



It's comical..... in 4-5 hours everyone will be talking about it strengthening again. This board can be pretty fickle.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3725 Postby dwg71 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:17 pm

Noles2006 wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati



I think it's more likely than you think...



Shear is also a factor. A path more nw to mountainous Cuba would be a factor. but agreed less than 30% of being dead.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3726 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:18 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Its funny watching the posts in here now..talking about Gustav dying..yeah would be great, but not likely at all...there is not much land around it now after moving off Hati


Ivanhater, go back and read some of Derek's posts...I think he's on to something..Appears to be heading to Eastern Cuba, and it may do a number on whatever is left of the storm.

I've seen Derek call these things before and a few hours later the NHC is saying the same thing...that's why I listen to what he says...
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#3727 Postby Just Joshing You » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:19 pm

I think the HWRF is going to shine, just watch.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3728 Postby DIwestender » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:20 pm

What does the latest HWRF show?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3729 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:21 pm

Pick a model any model....LOL...HWRF will move 4-6 more times before landfall. As will others.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3730 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:21 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:New EURO - Cat 3/4 west of NOLA on Tues....FWIW


Another eastward shift for the EURO right?
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#3731 Postby Just Joshing You » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 pm

Slow intensification until close to Gulf, then either E.I or R.I into the gulf, then steady weakening towards the coast. Note that the pressure at landfall is like 912 MBR or something, however...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3732 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 pm

Haiti gave him a nice punch in the gut, but shortwave satellite shows a good little spin going on north of the coast right where the plane located the center, and the symmetry seems to be getting a little better. It's not done yet.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3733 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:New EURO - Cat 3/4 west of NOLA on Tues....FWIW



Well hopefully this will be a mute point is there is nothing to
become a Cat 3/4 to on Tues. Hey it never hurts to wish.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3734 Postby ColdFusion » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 pm

Could we possibly see a slight relocation of the center? (ok, look dont throw stones, at least give me some cred for trying to put an end to the 'its dead' posts)

Here's what I am seeing (or imagining)

Looking at the vis (http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... ive_0.html) , I'm seeing (granted from just a few frames) what might be the LLC just to the SW of the 'head of the shaft'.

Also, on IR, there is a new pop of red cloud tops in that area....
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html

anyone?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3735 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:New EURO - Cat 3/4 west of NOLA on Tues....FWIW


Another eastward shift for the EURO right?


yes.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3736 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:23 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
Ivanhater, go back and read some of Derek's posts...I think he's on to something..Appears to be heading to Eastern Cuba, and it may do a number on whatever is left of the storm.

I've seen Derek call these things before and a few hours later the NHC is saying the same thing...that's why I listen to what he says...


Like this one?

Derek Ortt wrote:
I'm thinking it maintains weak TS/TD status for 24, then intensifies steadily afterward
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3737 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:24 pm

Yes metro....0z EURO had a TX/LA landfall.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3738 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:26 pm

Funny thing is that I kept mentioning the ULL and the shear possibilities that would affect Gustav yesterday but I didn't get much of a response.....

:wink:
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#3739 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:27 pm

I realize that everyone, myself included, would wish for Gustav to die
especially when it is forecasted to become a major hurricane.
But unfortunately, this storm is going to move over some of the highest
heat content water in the basin, and shear, while present, is not yet
prohibitive. Unless this goes over a majority of Cuba, it will likely
remain over hot water and deepen explosively into a category 2/3 (whatever
the 11 AM NHC track has),
then cross Cuba and follow NHC's thinking from there.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav between Cuba and Haiti

#3740 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:28 pm

gatorcane wrote:Funny thing is that I kept mentioning the ULL and the shear possibilities that would affect Gustav yesterday but I didn't get much of a response.....

:wink:



Gator, don't think its so much the ULL...Its just now moving away from the eastern side of that ridge...
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