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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12921 Postby crazycajuncane » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:08 pm

Good ole Rob Perillo local met just seem surprised about the change in the forecast track. Now a night or two ago him and Nelson Robinson seemed to get tired of the storm. They barely mentioned it. Now I just saw that they'll possibly have Tropical Storm force winds in New Orleans. Interesting how the shift in track can change things. Just two nights ago they said we'd get a nice northerly breeze from the storm and now tropical rainbands.

The kicker is I am going to New Orleans leaving tomorrow morning for the weekend. I am not very concerned, because the storm is hugging land and shouldn't strengthen very much. However things do change and I will keep a close eye on the weather. Of course this is after I win a whole lot of money at Harrah's :wink:
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#12922 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:09 pm

Interesting...with the projected path, I could possibly see myself being off of work on Monday. We'll see. Very interesting.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12923 Postby Sabanic » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:10 pm

cpdaman wrote:lets see steve lyons and derek ortt say increasing shear for fay (sw shear that is)

you can see her encroaching on some shear as the west edge "flattens out"

now i don't know wether that feature weakens or not but as long as it makes some progress east, the shear will be there

it's like some people can't imagine the storm weakening as it heads near them

as always lets watch what happens


It surely can happen, but it ain't happening right now is it Bro? Just going by what is presently happening. I don't think anyone really wants to put up with much, but she was supposed to be weakening already and it isn't happening.
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#12924 Postby MGC » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:10 pm

If Fay can continue the westward track and emerge back out over the GOM tomorrow, I think there is a good chance that Fay should remain a TS until landfall along the central GOM coast. This evening, a burst of convection near the circulation center is evident on IR satellite. I would not be surprised if the TS watch is extended westward also. I guess tomorrow we will secure the yard for anything that might blow away.......MGC

Of course the above is MGC's opinion and not an official forecast.
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#12925 Postby Sabanic » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:13 pm

MGC wrote:If Fay can continue the westward track and emerge back out over the GOM tomorrow, I think there is a good chance that Fay should remain a TS until landfall along the central GOM coast. This evening, a burst of convection near the circulation center is evident on IR satellite. I would not be surprised if the TS watch is extended westward also. I guess tomorrow we will secure the yard for anything that might blow away.......MGC

Of course the above is MGC's opinion and not an official forecast.


I agree with you MGC
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#12926 Postby crazycajuncane » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:14 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Interesting...with the projected path, I could possibly see myself being off of work on Monday. We'll see. Very interesting.


Wow you must have a great job. I know they do things different in New Orleans, but I think tropical storm rain bands wouldn't shut down work in Lafayette. I am planning on leaving New Orleans Monday morning so I hope the weather isn't nasty out there for the drive back.
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#12927 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:19 pm

Fay had shear all over her in the Carib. and looked 10 times worse then she does right now and strengthened to 60mph winds from a Wave!!!!!!!

You never say never with these storms, if you do that is about the time they bite you on your arse.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12928 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:21 pm

Not an expert on radar, but it looks like the center is on the Northwestern edge of the clear area some think is an eye, and is very close to being on the coast a smidge West of due South of TLH


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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12929 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:23 pm

Quick question. Looking at latest sat. loops see some kind of spinning around 30.6n 83.6 w or there abouts. Can anybody tell me what this is? Certainly not any kind of reformation?
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#12930 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:26 pm

crazycajuncane wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:Interesting...with the projected path, I could possibly see myself being off of work on Monday. We'll see. Very interesting.


Wow you must have a great job. I know they do things different in New Orleans, but I think tropical storm rain bands wouldn't shut down work in Lafayette. I am planning on leaving New Orleans Monday morning so I hope the weather isn't nasty out there for the drive back.

They have a conference call tomorrow and one on Sunday, so we'll see. But, if we have winds gusting to over 60 mph with heavy squalls, the banks will close. The City of New Orleans will request that people stay off of the streets.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12931 Postby stormy1970al » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:27 pm

I am going to bed. Be back tomorrow I hope.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12932 Postby bayoubebe » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:33 pm

[quote="wthrman13Well, your comment is kind of rude actually. Do you seriously think I wouldn't be looking at radar? I see the feature people are talking about, I just don't think it is an eye. It's circumstantial structure in the showers. Can you not see that the radar echoes in that feature are rotating considerably slower than the outer rainband? If an eye were to form now, it would form from the contraction of that outer rainband, not inside of it.[/quote]


wxsouth said, "To back up wthrman13...there is no eye! The center of circulation is not even associated with that "eye" you claim is moving onshore in Wakulla County. The center is in the rain free area to the east of Dog/St. George Island...as can be confirmed by doppler velocity data and recon data. This storm has no eye and it doesn't have an inner core...it's not going to intensify significantly."[/quote]

Then, if I understood the Weather Channel correctly, I guess that makes them wrong?
About an hour or so ago, I could have sworn I heard them say the eye was over water and he even pointed to exactly where in the gulf?
Not saying you are incorrect, but you are not in aggreance with TWC, FWIW.
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#12933 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:33 pm

Ok, I think some of us really need to take a break from the computer and get some rest. Good night everyone, and good luck to those who are about to experience Fay.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12934 Postby wxsouth » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:39 pm

bayoubebe wrote:[quote="wxsouthWell, your comment is kind of rude actually. Do you seriously think I wouldn't be looking at radar? I see the feature people are talking about, I just don't think it is an eye. It's circumstantial structure in the showers. Can you not see that the radar echoes in that feature are rotating considerably slower than the outer rainband? If an eye were to form now, it would form from the contraction of that outer rainband, not inside of it.



wxsouth said, "To back up wthrman13...there is no eye! The center of circulation is not even associated with that "eye" you claim is moving onshore in Wakulla County. The center is in the rain free area to the east of Dog/St. George Island...as can be confirmed by doppler velocity data and recon data. This storm has no eye and it doesn't have an inner core...it's not going to intensify significantly."[/quote]

Then, if I understood the Weather Channel correctly, I guess that makes them wrong?
About an hour or so ago, I could have sworn I heard them say the eye was over water and he even pointed to exactly where in the gulf?
Not saying you are incorrect, but you are not in aggreance with TWC, FWIW.[/quote]

If they are calling it an eye...then I strongly disagree. The center of circulation is over the gulf...and dry air rotating in on the eastern side of the circulation gives the radar appearance of an "eye". Maybe its easier for viewers to understand if they call it an eye. It doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things.
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#12935 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:42 pm

If we're too obnoxious to our pro-mets, and they stop posting, then this is just the Wunderground w/o Dr. Master's putting out the latest update each day...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12936 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:44 pm

BTW, if I am correct, and the center is on the Northwest corner of the clear area, then it is getting a nice band of convection on its Northern edge.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12937 Postby srainhoutx » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:44 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:If we're too obnoxious to our pro-mets, and they stop posting, then this is just the Wunderground w/o Dr. Master's putting out the latest update each day...


Well spoken Ed :wink:
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#12938 Postby Sabanic » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:45 pm

As the old timers would say . . . Their ain't no eye if she ain't a 'Cane!!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12939 Postby bayoubebe » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:45 pm

wxsouth wrote:
bayoubebe wrote:[quote="wxsouthWell, your comment is kind of rude actually. Do you seriously think I wouldn't be looking at radar? I see the feature people are talking about, I just don't think it is an eye. It's circumstantial structure in the showers. Can you not see that the radar echoes in that feature are rotating considerably slower than the outer rainband? If an eye were to form now, it would form from the contraction of that outer rainband, not inside of it.



wxsouth said, "To back up wthrman13...there is no eye! The center of circulation is not even associated with that "eye" you claim is moving onshore in Wakulla County. The center is in the rain free area to the east of Dog/St. George Island...as can be confirmed by doppler velocity data and recon data. This storm has no eye and it doesn't have an inner core...it's not going to intensify significantly."


Then, if I understood the Weather Channel correctly, I guess that makes them wrong?
About an hour or so ago, I could have sworn I heard them say the eye was over water and he even pointed to exactly where in the gulf?
Not saying you are incorrect, but you are not in aggreance with TWC, FWIW.[/quote]

If they are calling it an eye...then I strongly disagree. The center of circulation is over the gulf...and dry air rotating in on the eastern side of the circulation gives the radar appearance of an "eye". Maybe its easier for viewers to understand if they call it an eye. It doesn't really matter in the overall scheme of things.[/quote]

I thought they said eye, but on second thought, maybe they did say center of circulation. :?: To a non pro such as myself, I tend to associate those words together. At any rate, your last post has helped clarify things for me . Thanks for your explanation and inupt.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay in NE GOM

#12940 Postby TampaFl » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:45 pm

Map courtest BoatUS.com:

A slight wsw movement:

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