Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

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#1781 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:01 am

off of a 6Z run

THROW OUT THIS GFDL AND HWRF

Wait for the 12Z run
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#1782 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:01 am

They may leave the track alone... models shifted W yesterday, and E today, so it might be within their "noice" level until better agreement happens. IMO, could signal end of the W shift from late yesterday.

There has been a history of flip flop with this one. Interesting though... seems some part of FLPen is going to see this. Question is how strong... very problematic forecast intensity wise because of land.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs=06z GFDL Shifts East

#1783 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:02 am

06z HWRF also shifts east with landfall near where Charley did.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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#1784 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:06 am

Derek Ortt wrote:off of a 6Z run

THROW OUT THIS GFDL AND HWRF

Wait for the 12Z run


Thank you Derek. Will the 6Z runs on Sunday be our tell tale run for the West Coast of Florida?
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#1785 Postby Trader Ron » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:07 am

Close to a Donna like track. Takes it all the way into N.C. Not good.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs=06z GFDL Shifts East

#1786 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:08 am

cycloneye wrote:06z HWRF also shifts east with landfall near where Charley did.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation


Now this run makes more sense. Pretty much true north up the peninsula after landfall. This storm is going to be a nail biter on the track. A little shift right or left will make all the difference on a west coast LF.
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#1787 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:12 am

:uarrow:

Hi folks nail-biting for sure. Lets see if other models shift E although I agree with Derek throw them out for the time being
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1788 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:18 am

Fay is only at 72W, the eastern most point in SFL is at 80W (@WPB), Miami is even a bit farther W, so Fay is still 480 miles east of the east coast of SFL. IMO there is plenty of time for things to change to the E and even skirt E of SFL.
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#1789 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:19 am

:uarrow:

No doubt and why the NHC has SE FL well within the cone..
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1790 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:20 am

06z Nogaps also over S.Fla
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#1791 Postby JPmia » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:21 am

Derek Ortt wrote:off of a 6Z run

THROW OUT THIS GFDL AND HWRF

Wait for the 12Z run


What happened to these model runs? Why should they be discarded? Just curious.
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#1792 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:22 am

Goofdl is Donna like. That has to be wrong.
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#1793 Postby lonelymike » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:24 am

Derek Ortt wrote:off of a 6Z run

THROW OUT THIS GFDL AND HWRF

Wait for the 12Z run


Derek lives in Miami. If this verifies he's chainsmoking while holding on to his roof :D J/K D just poking some fun at ya. :P
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1794 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:26 am

Can we post more detail than just SFL landfall, with the Nogaps what city, Keys, Miami, Marco Island, etc. Fay is close enough we can be specific.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1795 Postby rockyman » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:30 am

AtlanticWind wrote:06z Nogaps also over S.Fla


Do you have a link? My 6z NOGAPS is showing the Mobile landfall discussed earlier

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... 2008081606
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#1796 Postby O Town » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:30 am

JPmia wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:off of a 6Z run

THROW OUT THIS GFDL AND HWRF

Wait for the 12Z run


What happened to these model runs? Why should they be discarded? Just curious.

Old thread but a good read on models, look at the second post about your question.
viewtopic.php?p=1330638#1330638
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1797 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:34 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1798 Postby Bocadude85 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:37 am

didnt the models start trending east last night with the 00z runs?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs

#1799 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:41 am

This is the trough that is supposed to pick up Fay and turn her NE according to 06Z GFDL?? Huh?

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay Model Runs=06z GFDL Shifts East

#1800 Postby tampastorm » Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:42 am

cycloneye wrote:06z HWRF also shifts east with landfall near where Charley did.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation



I guess the big difference being, unlike Charlie that then went to the east coast of FL, Fay should ride up the west coast.
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