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#3161 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:49 pm

maybe a computer generated those coordinates ... that would make sense .. lol
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#3162 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:49 pm

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... 8conv.html

FINALLY some convergence near the broad surface low
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#3163 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:50 pm

The 72 hour TAFB has shifted quite a bit west.

[img]Image[/img]
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#3164 Postby Wthrman13 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:50 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:seriously radar .. is hideous looking its a mess .. no bands that even discernible. at the surface this thing is very sad !!!


reminds me of Erin last year

Sat looked impressive... but very little at the surface


Until it nailed us here in OK that is...

As a 55 kt "low"...

Yes I'm bitter :wink:

Anyway, sometimes these fast-moving systems take a long time to close off down at the surface in the face of strong low-level easterly trades.
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#3165 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:50 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:seriously radar .. is hideous looking its a mess .. no bands that even discernible. at the surface this thing is very sad !!!


reminds me of Erin last year

Sat looked impressive... but very little at the surface

If what you guys are saying is true, then chances for development may go below 20%. In the next several hours, this thing will run into PR and DR, probably ripping it to shreds. It's beautiful now, but w/ poor surface conditions and tall mountains in it's way, this may just be another..."next"!
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#3166 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:51 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8conv.html

FINALLY some convergence near the broad surface low


Yeah, I saw that. Convection getting closer to that weak LLC area. It'll get going eventually. Possibly by 4am CDT.
I'd just as soon NOT get a call at 3:30am to get to work ASAP! I'd rather that they wait for 10am.
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#3167 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:51 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8conv.html

FINALLY some convergence near the broad surface low



Derek, let me get your expert opinion here. Do you think this will hold off until Saturday to become a depression? or do you think tomorrow or tomorrow night is a better possibility?
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#3168 Postby canegrl04 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:51 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
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Aric Dunn wrote:seriously radar .. is hideous looking its a mess .. no bands that even discernible. at the surface this thing is very sad !!!


It sure is... here is an image with the range rings set on the 18.3, 64.6 position. And I see... not much! lol

Image



did i tell everyone that i have been laughing at the coordinates that are supposed to be official.. i can say one thing for sure... nothing at those coordinates...



That looks like a Transformer attacking
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3169 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:52 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
bvigal wrote:The official NHC postion, 18.3N 64.6W is right here in the BVI all right.

We have had no wind, and no heavy rains yet, but it's starting to rain again. Radar shows some good squalls moving in... when they hit, we'll have wind. In fact, I can hear it gusting out there now. Sounds like squalls, horizontal rain, LOL.

rats! thought this posted and walked away, came back and it's still here...


Stay inside, bvigal! You're in the eye. The 5 mph wind is going to return with the same fury from the opposite direction shortly! :lol:


:roflmao:

All kidding aside, I think this is the strangest invest/developing system I have ever tracked. Everything is perfect for intensification (aside from land interaction) and it still hasn't been upgraded due to no LLC. I'm baffled... :wall:
What is funny though is that there is actually some kind of LLC. It is very evident when looking at surface wind directions being reported. The problem is that it just isn't strong enough or well-enough defined for an upgrade right now.
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#3170 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:52 pm

Wthrman13 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:seriously radar .. is hideous looking its a mess .. no bands that even discernible. at the surface this thing is very sad !!!


reminds me of Erin last year

Sat looked impressive... but very little at the surface


Until it nailed us here in OK that is...

As a 55 kt "low"...

Yes I'm bitter :wink:

Anyway, sometimes these fast-moving systems take a long time to close off down at the surface in the face of strong low-level easterly trades.


very true.. was not paying attention to the easterlies.. what are we looking at right now with them ,,,
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#3171 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:52 pm

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#3172 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:53 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:seriously radar .. is hideous looking its a mess .. no bands that even discernible. at the surface this thing is very sad !!!


reminds me of Erin last year

Sat looked impressive... but very little at the surface

If what you guys are saying is true, then chances for development may go below 20%. In the next several hours, this thing will run into PR and DR, probably ripping it to shreds. It's beautiful now, but w/ poor surface conditions and tall mountains in it's way, this may just be another..."next"!
As much as I would love for that to happen, I doubt it will. I think the chances of this developing are still pretty high.
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#3173 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:53 pm

Doesn't have much time, it's about to plow into PR, if it was slightly more north, it could have had a chance.
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#3174 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:54 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image



ok i see the center .. its those little cell far bottom left of that image !!! strong little fellas.. lol

j/k
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3175 Postby expat2carib » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:55 pm

It's more empty words then sense right now;

You guys have been working hard. Get some sleep and see you fresh tomorrow.

We need you!!
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3176 Postby bvigal » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:55 pm

wxman57 wrote:
bvigal wrote:The official NHC postion, 18.3N 64.6W is right here in the BVI all right.

We have had no wind, and no heavy rains yet, but it's starting to rain again. Radar shows some good squalls moving in... when they hit, we'll have wind. In fact, I can hear it gusting out there now. Sounds like squalls, horizontal rain, LOL.

rats! thought this posted and walked away, came back and it's still here...


Stay inside, bvigal! You're in the eye. The 5 mph wind is going to return with the same fury from the opposite direction shortly! :lol:

Yeah, it's a sigh of relief, you better believe it!
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#3177 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:56 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8conv.html

FINALLY some convergence near the broad surface low


Yeah, I saw that. Convection getting closer to that weak LLC area. It'll get going eventually. Possibly by 4am CDT.
I'd just as soon NOT get a call at 3:30am to get to work ASAP! I'd rather that they wait for 10am.


I'm setting my alarm for 0830 UTC
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#3178 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:57 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-ir2.html

Dont see how this is going to avoid major land interaction with hispaniola
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#3179 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:58 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8conv.html

FINALLY some convergence near the broad surface low



ahhh . Yep each prevoius time the convergence showed, it was irregular and small. i.e.plot just 3 hrs prior. We still may well see this work to the surface tonight. With convergence and sustained convection and......patience.
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#3180 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:58 pm

I just want everyone to know that the MLC from earlier is now underneath the ball of convection a helping to fire more convection.. yah.. what does that mean .. well more disorganized mess ....

mlc 18.4n 63.7w
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