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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#401 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:04 pm

I think people need to start waking up, horrible track... Bahamas, keys, SF and the Gulf have a long week, if this happens...
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#402 Postby boca » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:05 pm

How accurate has the GFDL been lately?
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#403 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:05 pm

Ivanhater wrote:I think people need to start waking up, horrible track... Bahamas, keys, SF and the Gulf have a long week, if this happens...


Once the NHC issues a cone that points this way (if they do), believe me it will be all over the media in Florida.

Right now since it is an invest, its going "under the radar" for much of the populous.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#404 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:07 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:I think people need to start waking up, horrible track... Bahamas, keys, SF and the Gulf have a long week, if this happens...


Once the NHC issues a cone that points this way (if they do), believe me it will be all over the media in Florida.

Right now since it is an invest, its going "under the radar" for much of the populous.


Link please, ty.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#405 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:07 pm

boca wrote:How accurate has the GFDL been lately?


Dolly as a cat 5 into Galveston was a tad off. ;)
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#406 Postby SWFLA_CANE » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:07 pm

I know extrapolating on the end of the run is not the most accurate...but if you do that with this run it looks to head into south dade and cross the state heading north-west.
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#407 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:09 pm

gatorcane wrote:But what I am wondering is what happens after that? :uarrow: :uarrow: Does the hurricane move through the FL straits or go more WNW slamming into the FL Keys and/or SE Florida?
That is the $1,000,000 question. It definitely looks like Sunday through next Tuesday could be a very stressful period for the sunshine state as we watch this thing and see which route it will ultimately decide go.
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#408 Postby curtadams » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:10 pm

The GFDL overstrengthens on long runs - often very substantially. I've seen it predict a hurricane would strengthen *over the continental US*. It used to overweaken and they fixed that, but they fixed it too much.
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#409 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:19 pm

gatorcane wrote:But what I am wondering is what happens after that? :uarrow: :uarrow: Does the hurricane move through the FL straits or go more WNW slamming into the FL Keys and/or SE Florida?


Based on that trend, into the Straits. Maybe something like the 1919 hurricane (which ended up as a Cat 4, maybe 5 in the Gulf).
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#410 Postby sunnyday » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:22 pm

When an invest is so far away, I've noticed that the first predictions are usually incorrect. Therefore, if Florida is being predicted for a hit so early, perhaps that will be far from true. If we get in the cone, I'll still be skeptical unless the storm is 3-4 days away.
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#411 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:22 pm

Yea that run could make a grown man cry.. :D
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#412 Postby wxwonder12 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:23 pm

I know a hurricane can't make a 90 degree right turn but how sharp or wide of a turn does it make say if it were to recurve out to sea from the bahamas area? hope you understand the question.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#413 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:25 pm

WOW, that run is very alarming.
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#414 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:25 pm

looks like i maybe going chasing again fianlly after a few year..
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#415 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:26 pm

The thing about the GFDL run is that its actually fairly slow to ramp 92L, its not till it passes just to the north of PR does it really ramp up fairly quickly.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#416 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:26 pm

12z HWRF has the same track as GFDL but much much,much weaker.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#417 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:26 pm

sunnyday wrote:When an invest is so far away, I've noticed that the first predictions are usually incorrect. Therefore, if Florida is being predicted for a hit so early, perhaps that will be far from true. If we get in the cone, I'll still be skeptical unless the storm is 3-4 days away.
The storm is only 5-7 days away as it stands now, so by the time this actually develops (IF it even does), the first issued cone could be covering parts of Florida with the storm less than 5 days out at that point.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs=12z GFDL has a cat 3 in Bahamas

#418 Postby sunnyday » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:28 pm

Wow! Thanks for the information.
I would appreciate Mike Watkin's ideas about now....
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#419 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:33 pm

Looking at the 200mb forecast from GFS 12Z, that Upper Level Anticyclone is still going to develop much along the lines with this system.

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http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/index_200_lu_loop.shtml
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L Model Runs

#420 Postby boca » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:35 pm

The Keys would need 36 to 48 hrs to evacuate if 92L were to be a strong cane and head this direction. US1 is the only route in and out of the Keys.
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