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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#781 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:10 pm

It has been a fighter against all the hostile enviroment possible that you can imagine,cool waters as it moved off Africa,sal entrainment,dry air,prohibitive shear,but against all that its still there.
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#782 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:12 pm

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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#783 Postby Honeyko » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:44 am

Honeyko wrote:http://www.nlmoc.navy.mil/cgi-bin/movie.pl?satellite+jpg+10tttt+1200+1600+north_atlantic+hiresir

Assuming convection persists now, one of three things happens:

1) A mid-level circulation develops and is shoved north by shear. Result: Developing, recurving system.

2) The low center continues WNW and the upper-low retrogrades west quickly and remains strong: Result: 99L remains sheared....status quo.

3) The low center continues WNW and the upper-low retrogrades slowly or drops southwest. Result: 99L's surface center stacks with a 300mb upper trough. Explosive development as tropopause-overshooting CBs exhaust into excellent divergence.
The convection at the north end of the system, where a mid-level circulation might have developed, is dying away.

2 and 3 remain....

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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#784 Postby cpdaman » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:56 am

the rita reference was good for a laugh

of note it appears 99L is having another near death experience, not sure if she'll have a LLC by morning (or even still now)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html

me thinks this is the end of the road
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#785 Postby fasterdisaster » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:57 am

99L sure is the drama queen
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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#786 Postby Honeyko » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:01 am

cpdaman wrote:the rita reference was good for a laugh
Rita developed out of a "it'll never amount to anything" system just like this one.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-ir2.html
That floater is busted. Try this one instead: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-ir2.html ....zot the bad frames, fast rock mode, then click the Zoom button and hit a spot north of the system.
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#787 Postby jhamps10 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:39 am

ok lets put it this way, if it makes it thru the next 6 hours I will be shocked, amazed, and and fearful for what it could possibly do. she's dieing folks...
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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Central Atlantic

#788 Postby Honeyko » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:34 am

Honeyko wrote:Eyeball-projected 0804 1930Z center-fix: just a sliver southeast of 22N/62W. WNW heading. SAL still to the east, barging it forward.
Eyeball-projected (from IR2) 0805 0845Z center-fix: 22.5N/66W. W/WNW heading continues.
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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#789 Postby xironman » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:07 am

The Puerto Rico imagery gives a closer look at this feature http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/pr/loop-ir2.html. Looking at the upper air charts I don't see the shear backing off for at least 48 hrs.
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#790 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:18 am

Looks dead to me. open wave now. The tops are be blown off good fashion and the top are moving to the Northeast. I don't think it has a chance at all to rebuild back up. It is to far gone.
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#791 Postby Gustywind » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:46 am

000
AXNT20 KNHC 050604
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 AM EDT TUE AUG 05 2008

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS
OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST
FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED
ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...WEATHER
OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 0000 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
0515 UTC.

A HIGH AMPLITUDE TROPICAL WAVE HAS ENTERED THE E CARIBBEAN. ITS
AXIS EXTENDS ALONG 63W S OF 26N MOVING W 20-25 KT. A WEAK 1014
MB LOW IS ALONG THE WAVE AXIS NEAR 22N. SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION IS ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE WAVE FROM 21N-26N
BETWEEN 62W-66W. THE WAVE IS ALSO GENERATING SOME SHOWER
ACTIVITY OVER THE WINDWARD ISLANDS AND NE VENEZUELA. WHILE THE N
PART OF THE WAVE IS FORECAST TO BREAK AWAY AND MOVE NWD...THE
REMAINDER OF THE WAVE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE WWD ACROSS THE E
CARIBBEAN SPREADING ITS MOISTURE OVER THE UK/US VIRGIN ISLANDS
AND PUERTO RICO.
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#792 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:08 am

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#793 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:11 am

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If this is correct, windshear is not a problem for 99L. I think the visible image above shows that the convective areas are not being sheared.
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#794 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:22 am

Adios:

BEGIN
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invest_DEACTIVATE_al992008.ren
FSTDA
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NOTIFY=ATRP
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INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 99, 2008, DB, O, 2008080112, 9999999999, , , , , , METWATCH, , AL992008
AL, 99, 2008072918, , BEST, 0, 137N, 172W, 20, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073000, , BEST, 0, 144N, 179W, 20, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073006, , BEST, 0, 146N, 189W, 20, 1007, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073012, , BEST, 0, 154N, 198W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073018, , BEST, 0, 165N, 215W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073100, , BEST, 0, 169N, 232W, 25, 1007, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073106, , BEST, 0, 176N, 250W, 25, 1007, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073112, , BEST, 0, 178N, 269W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008073118, , BEST, 0, 180N, 290W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080100, , BEST, 0, 184N, 314W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080106, , BEST, 0, 185N, 334W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080112, , BEST, 0, 184N, 354W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 99, 2008080118, , BEST, 0, 184N, 375W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080200, , BEST, 0, 183N, 389W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 99, 2008080206, , BEST, 0, 187N, 414W, 25, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080212, , BEST, 0, 187N, 430W, 30, 1008, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080218, , BEST, 0, 186N, 445W, 30, 1010, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080300, , BEST, 0, 185N, 465W, 30, 1010, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080306, , BEST, 0, 184N, 483W, 30, 1010, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080312, , BEST, 0, 188N, 504W, 30, 1010, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080318, , BEST, 0, 193N, 524W, 25, 1010, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080400, , BEST, 0, 195N, 543W, 25, 1012, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080406, , BEST, 0, 197N, 562W, 25, 1012, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080412, , BEST, 0, 203N, 588W, 25, 1012, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2008080418, , BEST, 0, 215N, 615W, 25, 1013, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
AL, 99, 2008080500, , BEST, 0, 218N, 628W, 25, 1013, DB, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1014, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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#795 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:24 am

Two invests, one disturbance. Will it be back for a third round? Stay tuned!
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Re: ATL: Invest 99L in Western Atlantic

#796 Postby bvigal » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:30 am

FINALLY, officially put to rest! "Low, meet TUTT"
from http://www.srh.noaa.gov/productview.php?pil=SJUAFDSJU&version=0
...."THE TROPICAL WAVE ACROSS THE EASTERN (CARIBBEAN) THIS MORNING...WILL
CONTINUE TO MOVE WESTWARD ACROSS THE LOCAL REGION TODAY AND TONIGHT.
LATEST SATELLITE IMAGES THIS MORNING INDICATED MODERATE CONVECTION
ON THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN END OF THE WAVE WITH LIMITED CONVECTION
ELSEWHERE. MODEL GUIDANCES...AS INDICATED IN THE PREVIOUS
DISCUSSION...SUGGESTS THAT THE EFFECTS OF THIS SYSTEM ACROSS THE
REGION WILL BE MINIMAL. MOST OF THE WEATHER TODAY AND TONIGHT WILL
BE DICTATED BY AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH (TUTT) ORIENTED NORTH TO SOUTH
AND EXTENDING FROM THE COAST OF SOUTH AMERICA NORTHWARD ACROSS
HISPANIOLA AND CONTINUING NORTHWARD ACROSS THE ATLANTIC FOR
SEVERAL HUNDREDS MILES."
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#797 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:31 am

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Re: ATL: Ex. 99L in Western Atlantic

#798 Postby xironman » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:55 am

If this is correct, windshear is not a problem for 99L. I think the visible image above shows that the convective areas are not being sheared.
If you look on that map there is one small area of 20kt near Puerto Rico, I think that is what was getting it overnight. You could definitely see the cirrus flying in IR2. It is easier to see in a loop than a still.
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#799 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:06 am

As I was looking this morning I didn't think it was any thing but a open wave. Don't think it will go back up for the 3 time HURAKAN
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#800 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:34 am

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 AM EDT TUE AUG 05 2008

A HIGH AMPLITUDE TROPICAL WAVE IS OVER THE E CARIBBEAN WITH AXIS
ALONG 65W S OF 25N MOVING W 20-25 KT. WIDELY SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION IS ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE WAVE FROM 22N-27N
BETWEEN 63W-68W. SIMILAR CONVECTION IS OVER THE WINDWARD ISLANDS
FROM 10N-15N BETWEEN 60W-67W. THE N PART OF THE WAVE IS FORECAST
TO BREAK AWAY AND MOVE NWD...THE REMAINDER OF THE WAVE WILL
CONTINUE TO MOVE WWD ACROSS THE E CARIBBEAN.
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