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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#301 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:25 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:Dry air eatin' it up



You think we should just write it off then huh?
I personally don't think so.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#302 Postby physicx07 » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:25 am

Speaking of looking for east winds, there is a fairly strong outflow boundary pushing towards the MS/AL coast. It may psyche us out that the system is developing when (probably) north winds begin in Mobile or Pascagoula because of it, if it makes it there.

Ed Mahmoud wrote:Bed time.




It may poof overnight, but it may not. Pressures not screaming down, no East wind where I'd expect one to be, except Ram Powell offshore platform
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#303 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:27 am

I think LA needs to watch the squall line moving through MS for a little while until it pushes through or dissipates.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#304 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:33 am

"Dry air eatin' it up" - Doesn't say anything about writing it off. Just stating that dry air is clamping down. :roll:

Of course, it "bears" watching.
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#305 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:37 am

again, this is normal for developing Gulf systems. They struggle overnight

that said, the 0Z Canadian is encouraging. Backed off on development
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#306 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:40 am

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tropical/satpix ... v_loop.php

Right now i like the NAM more southern development...
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#307 Postby Duddy » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:42 am

Derek Ortt wrote:again, this is normal for developing Gulf systems. They struggle overnight

that said, the 0Z Canadian is encouraging. Backed off on development


That's not encouraging! We are in an extreme drought and need a good system to help us catch up for the year in rainfall.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#308 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:44 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN AUG 3 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A SURFACE TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE ACCOMPANIED BY SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS IS LOCATED IN THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO.
SURFACE PRESSURES ARE FALLING IN THE AREA...AND ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS APPEAR TO BE FAVORABLE FOR SLOW DEVELOPMENT. THIS
SYSTEM COULD BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS AS IT MOVES SLOWLY TO THE WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST. A
RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WILL INVESTIGATE THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON...IF
NECESSARY.


SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH AN AREA OF LOW
PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 900 MILES EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD
ISLANDS IS POORLY-ORGANIZED. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE FORECAST TO
BECOME LESS CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT...SO THE CHANCES OF THIS
SYSTEM DEVELOPING INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION ARE DECREASING. THE
LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-NORTHWEST AT 15 TO
20 MPH.

A SMALL AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE
LOCATED ABOUT 650 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS
REMAINS POORLY ORGANIZED. SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM
IS NOT EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS THE WAVE MOVES
WESTWARD AT ABOUT 20 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATWOAT+shtml/030538.shtml
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#309 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:48 am

I'll put my $$$ on the GFS solution right now.
By way new storms are refiring due south of the Al/FL state line.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#310 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:49 am

Stormcenter wrote:I'll put my $$$ on the GFS solution right now.
By way new storms are refiring due south of the Al/FL state line.


Doesn't the GFS solution hug the coast?
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#311 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:53 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:I'll put my $$$ on the GFS solution right now.
By way new storms are refiring due south of the Al/FL state line.


Doesn't the GFS solution hug the coast?



Yes it does.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#312 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:55 am

Stormcenter wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:I'll put my $$$ on the GFS solution right now.
By way new storms are refiring due south of the Al/FL state line.


Doesn't the GFS solution hug the coast?



Yes it does.


Ok, I'm thinking a more southern track.... Noticing the new convection, this is a fighter.
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#313 Postby southerngale » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:57 am

Duddy wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:again, this is normal for developing Gulf systems. They struggle overnight

that said, the 0Z Canadian is encouraging. Backed off on development


That's not encouraging! We are in an extreme drought and need a good system to help us catch up for the year in rainfall.

I don't know about ya'll, but I love being in tropical storms and Cat 1-2 canes! I'm totally -removed- this thing my way as a Cat 1!


You do know that -removed- it your way won't actually change where it's going, right?

Some thoughts are better kept inside.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#314 Postby physicx07 » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:58 am

I don't see the new convection. Is it at the AL/FL line or way offshore? If AL/FL line maybe it's part of the outflow bdry pushing south.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#315 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:02 am

physicx07 wrote:I don't see the new convection. Is it at the AL/FL line or way offshore? If AL/FL line maybe it's part of the outflow bdry pushing south.


check the loop

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-rb.html
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#316 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:04 am

physicx07 wrote:I don't see the new convection. Is it at the AL/FL line or way offshore? If AL/FL line maybe it's part of the outflow bdry pushing south.



It's offshore in the same general area as the old complex of storms in the GOM.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#317 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:06 am

By the way that is a mean complex of storms headed south into LA.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#318 Postby americanrebel » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:09 am

ok everybody, for those that don't like my -removed- just skip this post. For everybody that likes reading what I always wishcast as the worse case scenario, here we go.

Everything that is stated below is of my own opinion, there is no scientific reasoning or evidence behind what I say. No organization backs what I say.

For Invest 91L, I think he will be a TD by 1PM (Central) Sunday, a TS by 11PM Sunday, and will ramp up to a min. Cat. 3 Hurricane before making landfall Thursday morning around the Sabine Pass area.

Now for those that want to rip me, go ahead, everyone that is regulars on here knows I wishcast the worse case scenario, and this is what I think is the worse case. Hopefully I am wrong and it will be just a TS at landfall, but with all the warm SST out there if it continues it slow movement, it could intensify slowly and get to a very large storm.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#319 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:14 am

Stormcenter wrote:By the way that is a mean complex of storms headed south into LA.


I'm wondering if this will enhance or have an negative impact on 91L...Looks like they will interact.
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Re: ATL: Invest 91L - Gulf of Mexico

#320 Postby Duddy » Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:14 am

americanrebel wrote:ok everybody, for those that don't like my -removed- just skip this post. For everybody that likes reading what I always wishcast as the worse case scenario, here we go.

Everything that is stated below is of my own opinion, there is no scientific reasoning or evidence behind what I say. No organization backs what I say.

For Invest 91L, I think he will be a TD by 1PM (Central) Sunday, a TS by 11PM Sunday, and will ramp up to a min. Cat. 3 Hurricane before making landfall Thursday morning around the Sabine Pass area.

Now for those that want to rip me, go ahead, everyone that is regulars on here knows I wishcast the worse case scenario, and this is what I think is the worse case. Hopefully I am wrong and it will be just a TS at landfall, but with all the warm SST out there if it continues it slow movement, it could intensify slowly and get to a very large storm.


To get that strong it would have to go further out to sea for awhile, and the only way it will get to Sabine Pass is if it hugs the coast. I would imagine Galveston.
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