ATL: Tropical Depression Edouard

[fasterdisaster]

Is there any reason this isn't a depression yet? Is there some conflicting wind obs?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Is there any reason this isn't a depression yet? Is there some conflicting wind obs?

No data has shown a closed LLC as of yet. I don't think it will be upgraded intil the recon gets into the system tomarrow anyways. Yes Miamiwx appears to see something developing but no data to confirm it to be all the way closed...

[Nimbus]

Most of the buoys still have the wind coming out of the southwest, the Tampa buoy had wind out of the south but I could not find any wind out of the east at any buoys north of the convection *yet*?

[RL3AO]

Wind Direction (WDIR): W ( 280 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 9.7 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 11.7 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 2.3 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 5 sec
Average Period (APD): 3.8 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.89 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.03 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 82.8 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 85.3 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 77.2 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 91.8 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42040

[tailgater]

Is there any reason this isn't a depression yet? Is there some conflicting wind obs?

No data has shown a closed LLC as of yet. I don't think it will be upgraded intil the recon gets into the system tomarrow anyways. Yes Miamiwx appears to see something developing but no data to confirm it to be all the way closed...

Yes, we saw some lite easterly winds earlier along the western panhandle of Fla. but nothing lately

[LSU2001]

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=mcga1

The above bouy is in Mobile bay and is showing a N to NNE wind direction. Could this be the beginning of a wind shift for the invest??
TIm

[pojo]

we will see what conditions we encounter during the flight and if we can get the cardinal winds....

as of right now the invest is still on.... CARCAH has til takeoff time to cancel if they deem necessary.

[vbhoutex]

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=zoom&num=6&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=MOB&type=N0Z&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&showstorms=0&map.x=463&map.y=228&centerx=400&centery=240&lightning=0&smooth0&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0

Take a look at the starts of storms directly S of the Buras area(the tip of SE LA). Am I imagining things or are they beginning to spin in a counterclockwise direction. They are barely even showing up as dots at this time. That is why I am doubting myself.

Good analysis Miamiensiswx. I think you could be right about the possible LLC startup. On visible the MLC is completly noticeable to the NE of the heavier convection. Given 24 hours or so for alignment to begin and we could quickly have something to watch even closer.

[Steve]

Trof isn't moving anywhere any time soon. Ignore those complexes, because they will pulse and wane. I actually like the BAM tracks a little, but I would be willing to bet that besides a slow evolution, the movement will be too. That means should the storm get any better organized, the east side should see some rain if it's not too far offshore. JMO of course.

Steve

[vbhoutex]

Wind Direction (WDIR): W ( 280 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 9.7 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 11.7 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 2.3 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 5 sec
Average Period (APD): 3.8 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.89 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.03 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 82.8 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 85.3 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 77.2 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 91.8 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure

Where is this? What do you think it indicates?

[HouTXmetro]

I had NO IDEA something could spin up this quick from almost nothing.

[Ed Mahmoud]

If this stays Tropical Storm intensity or below, and doesn't go too far North/East, East of about Cameron, LA, or too far South, Corpus Christi area, my lawn, and area farmers, welcome this.


I went to Austin for work last Wednesday, I-10 and Texas 71, crops are either dead or in deep trouble.

[Normandy]

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=MOB&product=N0Z&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

That is the only rotation I can pick out on radar....however radar that far out does not indicate a surface circulation. Winds have switched from to a more northerly component in Mobile Bay as well, indicating something might be starting to form. I will go out on a limb and say tom if recon finds a depression, we might need to SERIOUSLY watch this.

[HouTXmetro]

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=MOB&product=N0Z&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

That is the only rotation I can pick out on radar....however radar that far out does not indicate a surface circulation. Winds have switched from to a more northerly component in Mobile Bay as well, indicating something might be starting to form. I will go out on a limb and say tom if recon finds a depression, we might need to SERIOUSLY watch this.

Were already seriously watching it

[RL3AO]

Where is this? What do you think it indicates?

Sorry. Forgot the link. I added it.

[dizzyfish]

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=zoom&num=6&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=MOB&type=N0Z&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&showstorms=0&map.x=463&map.y=228&centerx=400&centery=240&lightning=0&smooth0&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0

Take a look at the starts of storms directly S of the Buras area(the tip of SE LA). Am I imagining things or are they beginning to spin in a counterclockwise direction. They are barely even showing up as dots at this time. That is why I am doubting myself.

Good analysis Miamiensiswx. I think you could be right about the possible LLC startup. On visible the MLC is completly noticeable to the NE of the heavier convection. Given 24 hours or so for alignment to begin and we could quickly have something to watch even closer.

I thought I noticed a spin this morning. (on a very zoomed out radar they showed on the news)
If it's there we should for sure be able to see it in the morning. Or maybe later tonight.

[tailgater]

Check out the ground clutter on this radar loop. Notice the little shower ssw of panama city. If I had to guess I'd say the Very weak LLC is just south of Pensacloa.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... x&loop=yes

[HURAKAN]

[Ed Mahmoud]

South of New Orleans= maybe hint of a surface circulation, but I'm not betting the mortgage...
Station 42001 - MID GULF 180 nm South of Southwest Pass, LA



Edit for unintentional comma...

[RL3AO]

South of New Orleans= maybe hint of a surface circulation, but I'm, not betting the mortgage...
Station 42001 - MID GULF 180 nm South of Southwest Pass, LA

Lets see if some of the coastal observations start to change in the next few hours. Right now everything reamains southerly.