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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#301 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:19 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:Will be interesting in the next 72 hours if the models stick with a Yucatan crash,or if they start to move it into the Channel


They all seem clustered South of the Channel. I really don't see anything to change that.




true and keep it weak...develope it and the CMC run last night would have it shooting the channel. HRW has that now....not out of the question....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#302 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:58 am

A little bit slower foward speed,18 kts.

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1254 UTC THU JUL 17 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL942008) 20080717 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080717 1200 080718 0000 080718 1200 080719 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.6N 64.2W 13.1N 67.5W 13.7N 70.7W 14.7N 74.0W
BAMD 12.6N 64.2W 12.5N 66.7W 12.7N 69.2W 13.4N 71.8W
BAMM 12.6N 64.2W 13.1N 66.9W 13.8N 69.7W 14.9N 72.4W
LBAR 12.6N 64.2W 12.8N 67.5W 13.2N 71.0W 13.9N 74.8W
SHIP 30KTS 33KTS 36KTS 41KTS
DSHP 30KTS 33KTS 36KTS 41KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080719 1200 080720 1200 080721 1200 080722 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 15.9N 77.8W 18.2N 85.4W 18.6N 91.7W 18.3N 96.3W
BAMD 14.4N 74.3W 16.6N 79.0W 18.4N 83.2W 19.2N 86.8W
BAMM 16.2N 75.2W 18.9N 81.1W 20.7N 86.1W 21.9N 90.7W
LBAR 14.7N 78.5W 16.9N 85.0W 17.7N 89.7W .0N .0W
SHIP 47KTS 53KTS 59KTS 61KTS
DSHP 47KTS 53KTS 59KTS 47KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 12.6N LONCUR = 64.2W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 18KT
LATM12 = 12.3N LONM12 = 60.5W DIRM12 = 270DEG SPDM12 = 18KT
LATM24 = 12.2N LONM24 = 56.5W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#303 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:14 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#304 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:42 am

Looks like 94L could make it into the southern gulf given these latest runs but I don't see anything to pull it further north if it makes it into the gulf. Hoping that we can get some moisture from this system though as it has gotten quite dry and hot around here with not much relief in sight.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#305 Postby category5 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:48 pm

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NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR

TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST    94L

INITIAL TIME  12Z JUL 17

DISCLAIMER ...  THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE.  IT
REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD
NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT.  PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC
OFFICIAL FORECAST.


FORECAST STORM POSITION

HOUR        LATITUDE        LONGITUDE        HEADING/SPEED(KT)

   0            12.4             64.2           275./18.0
   6            13.0             65.4           295./13.1
  12            13.0             66.9           270./14.5
  18            13.5             68.7           287./18.1
  24            13.8             70.3           282./15.5
  30            14.9             71.9           301./19.2
  36            15.2             74.0           281./20.4
  42            15.7             75.9           283./18.2
  48            16.3             77.2           293./14.6
  54            16.7             78.6           286./13.8
  60            17.8             79.8           316./15.8
  66            19.6             80.9           328./20.8
  72            20.8             82.4           306./18.3
  78            21.5             84.3           291./19.2
  84            21.9             85.9           284./15.0
  90            22.2             87.5           281./15.6
  96            22.3             88.8           275./11.2
 102            22.5             89.8           282./ 9.5
 108            22.6             90.4           284./ 5.9
 114            23.0             91.0           304./ 6.7
 120            23.6             91.1           348./ 6.1
 126            24.5             91.3           348./ 8.9



Heads up Louisiana...986mb at hour 126 and strengthening
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#306 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:07 pm

:uarrow: WOW....Good way to get clowned! :tease:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#307 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:10 pm

126 hr

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#308 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:13 pm

RL3AO wrote:126 hr

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If this thing lands in the Central BOC Id go out on a limb and say strength would be triple shown here..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#309 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:17 pm

Just for comparison sake:

126 GFS

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#310 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:31 pm

HWRF does not do anything in this 12z run,but the track is not good for the gomers,if this model increases intensity in future runs like GFDL has done.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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#311 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:34 pm

Surprised our Texans are not pounding these threads... :D
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#312 Postby Blahblahblah » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:47 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Surprised our Texans are not pounding these threads... :D


LOL! They appear to be the most vocal on this forum. Maybe there should be a sub-forum called "Talkin' Texas"
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#313 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:55 pm

There's no reason to unless this is thing pulls itself together. Too many false-hopers on here! Trying to keep them calm. LOL.
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#314 Postby zaqxsw75050 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:57 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Surprised our Texans are not pounding these threads... :D


OMFG!!! CAT 5 IS HEADING TO TEXAS!!!
jk :D

Let's see what will happen in the next run of models. I don't buy into it unless it does develop and actually in the GOM (not the BOC). Dean from last year was a good lesson...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#315 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:12 pm

WHXX01 KWBC 171902
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1902 UTC THU JUL 17 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL942008) 20080717 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080717 1800 080718 0600 080718 1800 080719 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.9N 66.1W 13.4N 69.2W 14.5N 72.5W 15.5N 75.9W
BAMD 12.9N 66.1W 12.7N 68.4W 13.0N 70.9W 13.8N 73.3W
BAMM 12.9N 66.1W 13.2N 69.0W 14.1N 71.8W 15.2N 74.5W
LBAR 12.9N 66.1W 13.0N 69.2W 13.6N 72.7W 14.4N 76.4W
SHIP 30KTS 33KTS 35KTS 41KTS
DSHP 30KTS 33KTS 35KTS 41KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080719 1800 080720 1800 080721 1800 080722 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 17.0N 79.7W 18.9N 87.1W 19.5N 92.3W 20.5N 94.9W
BAMD 14.8N 75.8W 17.0N 80.8W 18.9N 85.7W 20.7N 89.9W
BAMM 16.6N 77.6W 19.3N 83.9W 21.3N 89.3W 23.8N 93.4W
LBAR 15.4N 80.2W 18.0N 86.6W 21.6N 91.8W .0N .0W
SHIP 46KTS 57KTS 66KTS 72KTS
DSHP 46KTS 57KTS 47KTS 53KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 12.9N LONCUR = 66.1W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 18KT
LATM12 = 12.3N LONM12 = 62.4W DIRM12 = 275DEG SPDM12 = 18KT
LATM24 = 12.3N LONM24 = 58.7W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#316 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:14 pm

SHIP 18:00 UTC Forecast: Shear in the low 20s but turning light by run ending.

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               *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      INVEST  AL942008  07/17/08  18 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    30    31    33    34    35    41    46    51    57    61    66    70    72
V (KT) LAND       30    31    33    34    35    41    46    51    57    61    47    51    53
V (KT) LGE mod    30    30    30    30    30    31    33    37    40    45    35    46    55

SHEAR (KTS)       21    22    22    21    15    16    13    21     5     8     5     2     1
SHEAR DIR        334   326   328   329   315   278   290   289   325   305   120   319   328
SST (C)         27.9  27.9  27.8  27.6  27.6  28.1  28.3  28.6  28.8  28.2  27.7  28.1  28.5
POT. INT. (KT)   138   137   135   133   133   140   143   148   150   141   134   138   144
ADJ. POT. INT.   141   138   136   133   133   140   143   146   147   134   125   127   132
200 MB T (C)   -54.5 -54.3 -54.6 -54.6 -54.3 -54.4 -54.3 -54.2 -53.5 -53.6 -53.2 -53.3 -53.4
TH_E DEV (C)      10    10     9     8    10     9    10     9    10     9     9     9    10
700-500 MB RH     64    63    66    64    66    66    63    63    65    67    66    63    62
GFS VTEX (KT)     10    10     9     9     8     8     7     7     8     8     9     8     8
850 MB ENV VOR    15    19    27    24    35    57    47    25    11     6    -6   -17    -4
200 MB DIV        15    44    34    22    45    54    60    36    31    17    48    38    17
LAND (KM)        255   219   163   177   178   319   128   254   279    56     4   192   441
LAT (DEG N)     12.9  13.1  13.2  13.7  14.1  15.2  16.6  18.0  19.3  20.3  21.3  22.4  23.8
LONG(DEG W)     66.1  67.6  69.0  70.4  71.8  74.5  77.6  80.7  83.9  86.7  89.3  91.4  93.4
STM SPEED (KT)    16    14    14    14    14    15    16    16    15    14    12    11    12
HEAT CONTENT      44    53    42    30    34    61    89    37    12    68     0    26    43

  FORECAST TRACK FROM BAMM      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):275/ 18      CX,CY: -17/  2
  T-12 MAX WIND:  30            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  661  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  24.8 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  72.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL          0.   1.   1.   2.   6.  11.  17.  21.  25.  28.  29.  31.
  VERTICAL SHEAR         0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -5.  -5.  -4.  -2.   0.   2.
  PERSISTENCE            0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   2.   2.   2.   2.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -2.  -2.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   2.   2.   3.   3.   3.   3.   3.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   1.   1.   3.   3.   4.   5.   5.   6.   8.   8.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE       1.   2.   3.   4.  10.  16.  22.  28.  33.  39.  42.  45.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV        1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   1.   1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT       0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)      1.   3.   4.   5.  11.  16.  21.  27.  31.  36.  40.  42.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL942008     INVEST 07/17/08  18 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   0.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.1
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  20.4 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.5/  0.7
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  32.0 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.5
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   : 106.0 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  0.9
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  75.0 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  0.2
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  61.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.5/  0.1
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  20.1 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.5/  0.6
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  40.6 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=    19% is   1.5 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=    11% is   1.4 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL942008     INVEST 07/17/08  18 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY         
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#317 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:17 pm

SO do we have more models threatning Texas if 94L gets it's act together? I thought the consensus was into Americal De Central?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#318 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:25 pm

The Canadian mean steering suggests at worst a landfall in Mexico with sensible weather limited to Deep South Texas, and it looks like 9 of the GFS ensembles keep the ridge pretty intact across the Gulf.


Texas can get storms, but it is safer than Florida or North Carolina, and doesn't have a state income tax. No earthquakes outside the Mountain Time Zone, few shark attacks, and I don't think there has been an alligator attack in modern history.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#319 Postby canegrl04 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:26 pm

Wow.So this is now being given a chance to go thru the goal posts,so to speak. I think one of the most notorious systems to do it was Camille
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L Model Runs

#320 Postby txag2005 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:27 pm

Looks more and more like my Cancun vacation this week is going to be bad....
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