ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
brunota2003
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 9476
Age: 34
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:56 pm
Location: Stanton, KY...formerly Havelock, NC
Contact:

#1381 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:16 pm

I do not know what the Dvorak is looking at, then. I thought that was about the location, but wasn't sure (was looking at the big image, with only the 10's on it).
0 likes   

mattpetre
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 510
Age: 53
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:20 pm
Location: Missouri City,TX & Galleria
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1382 Postby mattpetre » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:18 pm

So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?
0 likes   

User avatar
HURAKAN
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 46086
Age: 38
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 4:34 pm
Location: Key West, FL
Contact:

#1383 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:24 pm

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10150
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1384 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:27 pm

mattpetre wrote:So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?


Wxman57 is great at explaining what he is thinking and he is not afraid to to make a prediction. If he were here he would answer you, don't include him with those that make one line statements and run.
0 likes   

User avatar
NDG
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15446
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:14 pm
Location: Orlando, FL

#1385 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:27 pm

Look at this 9' waves buoy 41040 is now reporting
Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 60 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 23.3 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 31.1 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 9.2 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 7 sec
Average Period (APD): 5.3 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.96 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): +0.03 in ( Rising )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 81.5 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.5 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 75.0 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 87.8 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure
0 likes   

User avatar
MGC
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5899
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:05 pm
Location: Pass Christian MS, or what is left.

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1386 Postby MGC » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:29 pm

Having watched the tropics for over 40 years, nothing surprises me. I've seen systems that I've given up for dead suddenly redevelope and I've seen systems that I've thought would develope fizzle. Until 94L evaporates or moves inland the possibility exists that it might develope. Those that claim it is dead are only just speculating. The fact that the NHC has not given up on it yet should speak volumes.....MGC
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10150
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1387 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:32 pm

Is it me or is 94L starting to pick up a better cyclonic spin again? Maybe slowing down will help.
0 likes   

User avatar
fci
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3324
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:29 am
Location: Lake Worth, FL

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1388 Postby fci » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:33 pm

Blown_away wrote:
mattpetre wrote:So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?


Wxman57 is great at explaining what he is thinking and he is not afraid to to make a prediction. If he were here he would answer you, don't include him with those that make one line statements and run.


I'll pile on here too.
Wxman was very bullish on development of 94L and explained based on his job; why he was in that his company provides guidance to the oil industry so he has to be way ahead of the curve with potential problems.
To his credit, when he determined he was wrong, he quickly revised his stance and told us why.
The "Dead Jim" is about the clearest way he can pronounce, that in his opnion; a system is dead.
I like it and there can be no mistake when paging through a thread where he has made his proclamation.
I think it is funny and not the least bit inappropriate.
Finally, as a Pro Met he needs no disclaimer.
He and Derek provide the most insight on this board and I greatly appreciate and look forward to their analysis. In fact wxman provides more analysis than any other Pro Met that I regularly see on this board!
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10150
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1389 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:42 pm

fci wrote:
Blown_away wrote:
mattpetre wrote:So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?


Wxman57 is great at explaining what he is thinking and he is not afraid to to make a prediction. If he were here he would answer you, don't include him with those that make one line statements and run.


I'll pile on here too.
Wxman was very bullish on development of 94L and explained based on his job; why he was in that his company provides guidance to the oil industry so he has to be way ahead of the curve with potential problems.
To his credit, when he determined he was wrong, he quickly revised his stance and told us why.
The "Dead Jim" is about the clearest way he can pronounce, that in his opnion; a system is dead.
I like it and there can be no mistake when paging through a thread where he has made his proclamation.
I think it is funny and not the least bit inappropriate.
Finally, as a Pro Met he needs no disclaimer.
He and Derek provide the most insight on this board and I greatly appreciate and look forward to their analysis. In fact wxman provides more analysis than any other Pro Met that I regularly see on this board!


Amen
0 likes   

User avatar
weatherSnoop
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 702
Age: 62
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 10:06 pm
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1390 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:46 pm

Wxman57 has my attention every time he shares his professional insight. It may seem like a hit and run, though I have learned he arises around 4 am. I too would not be hanging around at this hour.
0 likes   

User avatar
Bane
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 690
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:06 pm
Location: Ogden, NC
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1391 Postby Bane » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:49 pm

mattpetre wrote:So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?



i think i'll trust wxman57 a little more. this system looks like crap now and is going to experiencing major shear in the coming days.
0 likes   

User avatar
Ivanhater
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 11162
Age: 38
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:25 am
Location: Pensacola

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1392 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:54 pm

convection continues to increase...

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10150
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1393 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:56 pm

Bane wrote:
mattpetre wrote:So... does wxman57 just make the dead statement and then never return to the thread, no matter what the possible storm does? This thing is more than meets the eye. The wave behind it will still refire, but 94L will be the real show before things are over. Shear in the Caribbean will continue to lessen and 94L may very well fire back up into a real contender. Just my meager opinion. BTW, It's dead jimmy posts are just as liable to cause problems as it's bombing jim posts. Shouldn't we gripe about disclaimers then too?

i think i'll trust wxman57 a little more. this system looks like crap now and is going to experiencing major shear in the coming days.


If you saw 94L last night and most of the day, you would think 94L looks great rate now compared to last night. It looks the best it has in the past 24 hours.
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10150
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1394 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:57 pm

Ivanhater wrote:convection continues to increase...

Image


If 94L starts to build convection on the East side we may have something.
0 likes   

Ed Mahmoud

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1395 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:03 pm

It looks like a convectively active wave being sheared, with losts of mid and high cloud debris being carried East away from the convection. That is not an efficient way to build heat over the center, and develop a warm core cyclone.

It'd be an impressive wave if it were heading into favorable conditions, but this time of the year the Eastern Caribbean is rarely favorable.



If it hangs together, maybe it'll try to organize in the Western Caribbean where the Easterlies slow/converge, and maybe try to become something before the Pacific. But I'd say this has a better chance of being an EPAC storm than a Caribbean storm.


Unofficially, of course.
0 likes   

User avatar
HURAKAN
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 46086
Age: 38
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 4:34 pm
Location: Key West, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1396 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:10 pm

Code: Select all

*   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      INVEST  AL942008  07/16/08  00 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
SHEAR (KTS)       13    16    22    27    26    37    24    33    23    27    25    28    23


Going to sleep but want to leave you with this information. Ships forecasting quite strong wind shear.
0 likes   

User avatar
StormTracker
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2903
Age: 59
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:06 am
Location: Quail Heights(Redlands), FL.

#1397 Postby StormTracker » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:51 pm

I don't post much, but I thought this was kinda cool(the next 3 days)! If 94L(I know it's dead)was to get it's act together,things could get very interesting!!! 8-)
http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Loops/UA_Entire/UA_Entire_03_Day.shtml
0 likes   

Kennethb
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 506
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:15 am
Location: Baton Rouge

#1398 Postby Kennethb » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:53 pm

We still have to look at the calendar and remember that it is still the middle of July. Although the MJO is in a positive stage, 94L is still not in a prime area of development such as it would be in latter August or early September.
0 likes   

User avatar
StormTracker
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2903
Age: 59
Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:06 am
Location: Quail Heights(Redlands), FL.

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#1399 Postby StormTracker » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:59 pm

True KenB...Damn, the last QS missed!!!
Image
0 likes   

wxsouth
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 69
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:57 am

Re:

#1400 Postby wxsouth » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:13 pm

brunota2003 wrote:I do not know what the Dvorak is looking at, then. I thought that was about the location, but wasn't sure (was looking at the big image, with only the 10's on it).


Image

TRMM image from late in the afternoon provides good clues as to why SSD is still coming up with a 2.0 on the system. There appears to be a center in the lower levels around 13N 51W. At the very least...taking into account the westward motion...its a very sharp trough.

Not a system which looks likes its headed towards much intensification...but not an open wave either.
0 likes   


Return to “2008”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests