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#341 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:13 pm

You guys are arguing if it hits S. Florida, and it hasnt even passed Puerto Rico yet at the end of the run? Wow
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#342 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:13 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Speculation is driving me nuts...
It's far too early to prognosticate beyond the islands, in my view.


Seems very likely 94L will become a TD, it looks very healthy rate now and once we get tomorrow's visible, I bet we find a LLC and a TD. No matter how much reason you provide models tracking a system near the SE Bahamas is going to get people excited. Seems likely we will have Cristobal moving through the Hebert box into the NE Caribbean and generally towards SFL. Don't get to frustrated.
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#343 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:14 pm

RL3AO wrote:The word/phrases: "Florida", "East Coast" and "Gulf of Mexico" have absolutely no need to be mentioned. Right now it is a tropical wave well to the east of the Windward Islands.

Exactly!!!

...and a TC like Andrew or 1926 is extremely rare. Do your research on south FL climo.

I WILL stop posting if the unabated speculation continues.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#344 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:15 pm

Blown_away wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:Speculation is driving me nuts...
It's far too early to prognosticate beyond the islands, in my view.


Seems very likely 94L will become a TD, it looks very healthy rate now and once we get tomorrow's visible, I bet we find a LLC and a TD. No matter how much reason you provide models tracking a system near the SE Bahamas is going to get people excited. Seems likely we will have Cristobal moving through the Hebert box into the NE Caribbean and generally towards SFL. Don't get to frustrated.


Unless the Bahamas have moved 800 miles east, its not near the SE Bahamas. Its north of Anguilla when the run ends.
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#345 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:16 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
RL3AO wrote:The word/phrases: "Florida", "East Coast" and "Gulf of Mexico" have absolutely no need to be mentioned. Right now it is a tropical wave well to the east of the Windward Islands.

Exactly!!!

...and a TC like Andrew or 1926 is extremely rare. Do your research on south FL climo.

I WILL stop posting if the unabated speculation continues.



Man i love your info but you have about as much patience as my 3.5 year old trying to tie his shoes..
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#346 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:17 pm

weatherguru18 wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:GFDL is bringing into South Florida as a CAT 3?

NO

YES
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2. ... =Animation


Technically ESE of FL, but still more than a 1000 miles ESE. The end run is still ENE of PR. I wouldn't call that run a Cat 3 into SFL, more like a Cat 3 1000 miles away that needs to be watched.
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#347 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:19 pm

Thanks for the clarification, the immediate concern is the islands (Leewards and Puerto Rico)

94L seems to be wasting no time. I am shocked it is mid July and I am seeing such rapid organization in that area of the Atlantic.
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#348 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:20 pm

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I see here a discussion that for now it doesn't makes sense. Because a system forms near where Andrew or the 1926 Hurricane formed doens't mean that it will have the same track. It's just illogical to talk about something that far out. There is no computer in this planet or person on Earth that can precisely predict that far out. Therefore, we must concentrate on what is happening now.
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#349 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:21 pm

HURAKAN wrote:I see here a discussion that for now it doesn't makes sense. Because a system forms near where Andrew or the 1926 Hurricane formed doens't mean that it will have the same track. It's just illogical to talk about something that far out. There is no computer in this planet or person on Earth that can precisely predict that far out. Therefore, we must concentrate on what is happening now.

Thank you!!!

Thank you!!!

Thank you!!!
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#350 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:21 pm

Whoa! That puppy really got it's act together while I was gone. That's got a shot of upgrade at 11pm given the way the NHC has been pulling the trigger this year.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#351 Postby Mecklenburg » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:21 pm

is GFDL that reliable?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#352 Postby CourierPR » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:22 pm

Unabated speculation on this forum is like sex and violence on TV. If I don't like it, I can choose to "change the channel" but this forum is too valuable to let anything drive me away.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#353 Postby Mecklenburg » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:23 pm

what's the wind shear status in the area?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#354 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:24 pm

CourierPR wrote:Unabated speculation on this forum is like sex and violence on TV. If I don't like it, I can choose to "change the channel" but this forum is too valuable to let anything drive me away.

Most of the coversation during an impending landfall isn't "valuable."

The majority of the posts during the landfall of Katrina were nonsense.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#355 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:24 pm

94L 14-day track

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#356 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:25 pm

Mecklenburg wrote:is GFDL that reliable?

Yes and no. Right now, none of the models are really all that "reliable" because there is no defined LLC to pick up. All the models are doing is picking up on a point and going from there, whereas the true LLC could be (in some extreme cases) a hundred miles or more away.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#357 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:25 pm

RL3AO wrote:94L 14-day track

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Thats AWESOME>>>>>
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#358 Postby weatherguru18 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:26 pm

RL3AO wrote:94L 14-day track

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LMAO...are you telling me the folks in Panama are safe?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#359 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:27 pm

Mecklenburg wrote:is GFDL that reliable?


No computer models is 100% reliable. Too many factors to consider and as you go into the future, a minor error at the beginning could mean a big error 5 days out. Now, it makes sense based on the current wind pattern.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L East of the Windward Islands

#360 Postby Vortex » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:28 pm

00:45 UTC imagery indicates a developing 94l that is or is just about to become a depression. Large envelope with this system with deeper convection spreading and developing closer to the LLC. Upgrade likely at 5am as organization continues overnight. I expect Cristobal by 11pm Monday night.
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