Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#121 Postby Ad Novoxium » Tue May 06, 2008 4:26 pm

Nestor was a typhoon name. Was used in 1997 for a Super Typhoon that looked...well...kind of amazing.
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#122 Postby HurricaneBill » Tue May 06, 2008 4:34 pm

Cyclenall wrote:I feel like the names Fernand and Nestor have been used somewhere else before. They are good names for hurricanes though.


Nestor was a super typhoon in 1997.
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#123 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 06, 2008 4:37 pm

STY Nestor 1997

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#124 Postby KWT » Tue May 06, 2008 4:41 pm

Wow if the Atlantic Nestor ever looks that good it'd be well cool, that looks amazing, probably not far off annular but it does have some bands present granted they are rather small and contracted bands.
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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#125 Postby AnnularCane » Tue May 06, 2008 4:42 pm

That is amazing. He looks kind of like Epsilon.

Nestor makes me think of chocolate for some reason. :lol: Dorian is nice...kind of rolls off the tongue. I may have problems with Fernand. I keep wanting to say Ferdinand.
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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#126 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue May 06, 2008 5:05 pm

AnnularCane wrote:That is amazing. He looks kind of like Epsilon.

Nestor makes me think of chocolate for some reason. :lol: Dorian is nice...kind of rolls off the tongue. I may have problems with Fernand. I keep wanting to say Ferdinand.


you're not he only one :lol: I have to chuckle at Nestor.
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#127 Postby Cyclenall » Tue May 06, 2008 6:04 pm

Why would they choose Nestor as a replacement if it already was a Super Typhoon in the Wpac? That's just defeating the purpose now of replacing names. I'm sure they could have come up with a name that hasn't been used anywhere else on earth for a TC.
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#128 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 06, 2008 6:44 pm

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#129 Postby Cyclone1 » Tue May 06, 2008 6:47 pm

Nice graphic, but you need to change your avatar. :wink:
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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#130 Postby Ad Novoxium » Tue May 06, 2008 6:49 pm

Cyclenall wrote:Why would they choose Nestor as a replacement if it already was a Super Typhoon in the Wpac? That's just defeating the purpose now of replacing names. I'm sure they could have come up with a name that hasn't been used anywhere else on earth for a TC.

Well...there is a bit of "shared names" between Typhoons and Hurricanes. For instance, in the same year as Nestor, there were both a Typhoon Linda and a Hurricane Linda (the strongest EPac storm version). Plus, "Maria" is in use in both the Atlantic and in the west Pacific (plus, we were the ones who contributed Maria to the typhoons list). On the same list as Maria, we use Ophelia despite Ophelia being booted from the typhoons list after 1960.
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#131 Postby HURAKAN » Tue May 06, 2008 7:04 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:Nice graphic, but you need to change your avatar. :wink:


Just did!!!
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#132 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Tue May 06, 2008 7:29 pm

Cyclenall wrote:Why would they choose Nestor as a replacement if it already was a Super Typhoon in the Wpac? That's just defeating the purpose now of replacing names. I'm sure they could have come up with a name that hasn't been used anywhere else on earth for a TC.


Names can be used in different basins; this isn't a new event (Ivan in the SWIO, Wilma is on a list in the Australian region). The committees involved don't consider other basins when formulating their name lists unless they're responsible for more than one basin (like RA IV/RSMC Miami).
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#133 Postby RL3AO » Wed May 07, 2008 12:50 pm

I got this from the NHC.

The release should be out later this week.
IF names are retired, it is done at the WMO meetings, which occur in
late April or early May.

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#134 Postby Chacor » Wed May 07, 2008 7:34 pm

I think, in fairness, the NHC are waiting for the WMO to publish the final report from the meeting before announcing the names.
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#135 Postby RL3AO » Tue May 13, 2008 4:25 pm

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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#136 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Tue May 13, 2008 4:27 pm

The press release about the new names came out a couple of hours ago, and Dorian, Fernand, and Nestor are indeed the replacements.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories200 ... names.html

I'm glad I found this board and got inside information early. :D

I do have a question about another hurricane name. The Wikipedia list of retired hurricanes says that the name Gracie was retired because of a storm in 1959.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:R ... hurricanes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Gracie

But Gracie is not on the site of retired names put up by the National Hurricane Center.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/retirednames.shtml

Normally I would certainly NOT trust Wikipedia over the NHS. But names seems to be the one issue that the government meteorologists don't take that seriously. At the moment, the NHS page even has Dean, Felix, and Noel listed as 2008 hurricanes on the chart at the top of the page. (Hopefully that will be corrected before most of you even look at it!) So do any of you know about Gracie, and whether or not that name was really retired or not?

Thanks

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#137 Postby brunota2003 » Tue May 13, 2008 5:05 pm

They have the years right, below the chart. Just a copy/paste in the wrong box, and someone not looking back over it afterwards to ensure the names are right.
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Re: Retirement Names - Dorian, Fernand, Nestor

#138 Postby Ad Novoxium » Tue May 13, 2008 6:15 pm

Whoa whoa WHOA.

Why do they have 1995's Felix instead of 2007s? :?: Are they aware they're using the wrong one?

(And to respond about Gracie, here's a link to another government page with names that does list Gracie. http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/B3.html)

(And finally, I must ask...are they getting giddy for this? They even messed up the first names to be retired, missing Edna. Now on top of the wrong Felix and the 2008 box mixup, now this. I love frantic meteorologists. :lol: :P )
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#139 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue May 13, 2008 9:27 pm

The worst-kept secret. Three more storms bite the dust.
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