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Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#1 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Started a new thread, knowing we have possibly a significant threat tomorrow in addition to today's widespread severe weather.

The MDT for tomorrow was surely a surprise though!
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Re: Severe weather - April 23-25

#2 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:33 pm

SPC AC 231715

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1215 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

VALID 241200Z - 251200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS THU AFTN/EVE ACROSS MUCH OF
SOUTHERN/EASTERN NEBRASKA...KANSAS...AND PARTS OF SOUTHWESTERN
IOWA/NORTHWESTERN MISSOURI....

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK
AREA...ACROSS MUCH OF THE MID MO VALLEY SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE
PLAINS....

...SYNOPSIS...
MODELS INDICATE THAT BROAD CYCLONIC UPPER FLOW WILL PERSIST ACROSS
MUCH OF WESTERN NORTH AMERICA THROUGH THIS FORECAST PERIOD... AROUND
A WESTERN CANADIAN POLAR LOW...WITHIN A BELT OF STRONGER POLAR
WESTERLIES TO ITS SOUTH...FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC THROUGH THE
CENTRAL ROCKIES/UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...AND WITHIN THE
SUBTROPICAL WESTERLIES ACROSS THE NORTHERN MEXICAN PLATEAU/RIO
GRANDE VALLEY. DOWNSTREAM...UPPER RIDGING WILL REMAIN PROMINENT
ACROSS EASTERN CANADA AND THE UPPER GREAT LAKES...AND EAST OF THE
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.

WITHIN THIS PATTERN...THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FEATURE OF INTEREST FOR
THURSDAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY APPEARS TO BE THE COLD CLOSED LOW NOW
MIGRATING INLAND ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. MODELS SUGGEST
THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL ACCELERATE EAST SOUTHEASTWARD LATER
TODAY/TONIGHT...BEFORE CONTINUING TO DIG ACROSS THE EASTERN GREAT
BASIN/CENTRAL ROCKIES AND CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS BY 12Z FRIDAY.
ASSOCIATED FORCING IS EXPECTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONTINUATION OF
WIDESPREAD CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT...NOW UNDERWAY...ACROSS A LARGE
PORTION OF THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES.

A MOIST LOW-LEVEL AIR MASS IS ALREADY IN PLACE ACROSS MUCH OF THE
SOUTHERN PLAINS. AND...THIS MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT
NORTHWARD AROUND THE WESTERN EDGE OF A RETREATING SURFACE
RIDGE...THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS...AND AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT
ADVANCING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI
VALLEY. BENEATH STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES ASSOCIATED WITH A
SUBSTANTIAL ELEVATED MIXED LAYER FORECAST TO SPREAD OFF THE
ROCKIES/PLATEAU REGION...THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO SEASONABLY LARGE
CONDITIONAL AND CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY OVER MUCH OF THE PLAINS/UPPER
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.

...PLAINS/MISSISSIPPI VALLEY REGION...
UNCERTAINTIES DO EXIST CONCERNING THE MAGNITUDE/EXTENT OF THE
CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL ACROSS THE PLAINS FOR THIS PERIOD. RATHER
SIGNIFICANT MID-LEVEL INHIBITION WILL EXIST AND PERSIST ACROSS A
LARGE PORTION OF THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS. AND...FLOW FIELDS/
DEEP LAYER...AND LOW-LEVEL...SHEAR MAY BE INITIALLY MARGINAL DUE TO
PERHAPS A SOMEWHAT LATE ARRIVAL OF THE APPROACHING UPPER IMPULSE
INTO THE CENTRAL ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS REGION.

HOWEVER...EXTENSIVE EARLY CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT...PRIMARILY
ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAKENING SHORT WAVE EMANATING FROM THE
SUBTROPICAL STREAM...IS EXPECTED TO SHIFT EAST OF THE PLAINS
EARLY...ALLOWING FOR ABUNDANT SURFACE HEATING SOUTH/EAST OF THE
NORTHERN PLAINS COLD FRONT...AND CENTRAL/SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS DRY
LINE. THIS INITIAL THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN
MOSTLY BASED IN AN ELEVATED WARM ADVECTION REGIME EAST OF THE
STRONGER CAP...BUT AT LEAST AN ISOLATED/GENERALLY MARGINAL SEVERE
HAIL THREAT MAY ACCOMPANY CONVECTION AS IT SPREADS ACROSS AND EAST
OF THE MID/UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY DURING THE DAY. MEANWHILE...
MIXED LAYER CAPE IN THE MOIST PLAINS BOUNDARY LAYER...WITH SURFACE
DEW POINTS IN THE MID/UPPER 60S...IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN EXCESS
OF 2000 J/KG BY LATE AFTERNOON...ACROSS MUCH OF EASTERN/ SOUTHERN
NEBRASKA...SOUTHWARD INTO TEXAS.

MID/UPPER FORCING MAY BEGIN TO GRADUALLY INCREASE IN THE VICINITY OF
THE COLD FRONT/DRY LINE INTERSECTION ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL/
SOUTHWEST NEBRASKA INTO WESTERN KANSAS BY LATE AFTERNOON. THIS IS
WHERE THE INITIATION OF STORMS APPEARS MOST PROBABLE...BUT THE CAP
MAY WEAKEN SUFFICIENTLY FOR AT LEAST ISOLATED TO WIDELY SCATTERED
STORMS SOUTHWARD ALONG DRY LINE INTO WEST CENTRAL TEXAS BY EARLY
EVENING...BENEATH DIFLUENT UPPER FLOW.

GIVEN INSTABILITY...DEEP LAYER SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO BECOME
SUFFICIENT FOR SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING VERY LARGE HAIL AND
LOCALLY DAMAGING WIND GUSTS. TORNADO POTENTIAL IS A BIT MORE
UNCERTAIN. BUT...A STRENGTHENING OF LOW-LEVEL AND MID-LEVEL WIND
FIELDS IS PROGGED TOWARD EARLY THURSDAY EVENING...ALONG WITH AN
ENLARGING OF CLOCKWISE CURVED LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPHS...TO SUPPORT MORE
FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR TORNADOES...PARTICULARLY ACROSS KANSAS INTO
SOUTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA. AN ISOLATED LONG-LIVED SUPERCELL OR TWO
ACCOMPANIED BY PERSISTENT TORNADIC ACTIVITY DOES NOT APPEAR OUT OF
THE QUESTION
...BEFORE MID/UPPER FORCING SUPPORTS INCREASINGLY
WIDESPREAD STRONG/SEVERE CONVECTION ACROSS PARTS OF NEBRASKA/KANSAS
THROUGH THE MIDDLE MISSOURI VALLEY THURSDAY NIGHT.

..KERR.. 04/23/2008

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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#3 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:38 pm

Over 75 dbz on the Dyess AFB radar base reflectivity. Now, maybe Wall-Cloud knows the magic VIL of the day just South of the AMA and LBB NWS CWA, and can dial that up and tell us if that is baseball, softball or basketball sized hail.
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#4 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:39 pm

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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#5 Postby Bunkertor » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:42 pm

OK, maybe a new thread makes sense

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Much dbz
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Soundings for radarimage posted above
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#6 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:42 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:Over 75 dbz on the Dyess AFB radar base reflectivity. Now, maybe Wall-Cloud knows the magic VIL of the day just South of the AMA and LBB NWS CWA, and can dial that up and tell us if that is baseball, softball or basketball sized hail.


>75 dBz probably suggests it could be softball sized hail...
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#7 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:52 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX
242 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN ANGELO HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN FISHER COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL TEXAS...

* UNTIL 330 PM CDT

* AT 239 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING GOLF BALL SIZE
HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED 2 MILES NORTH OF HOBBS...OR ABOUT 19 MILES EAST OF
SNYDER...AND MOVING EAST AT 25 MPH. GOLF BALL SIZE HAIL HAS BEEN
REPORTED AT HOBBS.


* THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL BE NEAR...
ROTAN BY 300 PM CDT...
ROBY BY 310 PM CDT...
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#8 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:57 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:Over 75 dbz on the Dyess AFB radar base reflectivity. Now, maybe Wall-Cloud knows the magic VIL of the day just South of the AMA and LBB NWS CWA, and can dial that up and tell us if that is baseball, softball or basketball sized hail.


>75 dBz probably suggests it could be softball sized hail...



Checked AccuWx PPV page, and VIL was as high as 67, now down to 62 Kg-m-2
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#9 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:59 pm

Left Cell

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
256 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIDLAND HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL SCURRY COUNTY IN WEST TEXAS...

* UNTIL 345 PM CDT

* AT 249 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR UNION...OR
NEAR SNYDER...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

* THE STORM WILL AFFECT THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS...
RURAL AREAS NEAR AND SOUTHWEST THROUGH NORTHWEST OF SNYDER
CENTRAL SCURRY COUNTY...

Right cell

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX
255 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN ANGELO HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN JONES COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL TEXAS...
NORTHERN FISHER COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL TEXAS...

* UNTIL 345 PM CDT

* AT 252 PM CDT...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS REPORTED A TORNADO 3 MILES
SOUTH OF ROTAN
...OR ABOUT 20 MILES WEST OF HAMLIN...MOVING EAST AT
30 MPH.

* THE TORNADO IS EXPECTED TO BE NEAR...
ROBY BY 300 PM CDT...
MCCAULLEY BY 320 PM CDT...
HITSON BY 325 PM CDT...
HAMLIN BY 330 PM CDT...

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#10 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:59 pm

NWS radar in radial velocity mode showing some rotation in that lead cell.
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#11 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:00 pm

Right cell

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
256 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIDLAND HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL SCURRY COUNTY IN WEST TEXAS...

* UNTIL 345 PM CDT

* AT 249 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR UNION...OR
NEAR SNYDER...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

* THE STORM WILL AFFECT THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS...
RURAL AREAS NEAR AND SOUTHWEST THROUGH NORTHWEST OF SNYDER
CENTRAL SCURRY COUNTY...
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#12 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:03 pm

Thats the left cell. The right cell (Fisher Co.) has the spotter tornado.
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Here they come

#13 Postby Bunkertor » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:07 pm

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#14 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:07 pm

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 345 PM CDT FOR NORTHERN
FISHER AND NORTHWESTERN JONES COUNTIES...

AT 257 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO
INDICATE A TORNADO. THE MOST DANGEROUS PART OF THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED NEAR ROTAN...OR 19 MILES WEST OF HAMLIN...MOVING EAST AT 30
MPH. A TORNADO WAS REPORTED 5 MILES SOUTH OF ROTAN. HAIL LARGER THAN
GOLF BALL CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED.

THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
HITSON AND MCCAULLEY BY 325 PM CDT...
HAMLIN BY 335 PM CDT...

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#15 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:11 pm

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
300 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

TXC415-232045-
/O.CON.KMAF.TO.W.0003.000000T0000Z-080423T2045Z/
SCURRY TX-
300 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 345 PM CDT FOR CENTRAL
SCURRY COUNTY...

AT 254 PM CDT...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS REPORTED A TORNADO 3 TO 5
MILES SOUTHWEST OF SNYDER.
MOVEMENT IS NORTHEAST AT 25 MPH.

SOME LOCATIONS AFFECTED BY THE TORNADO INCLUDE...RURAL AREAS WEST
AND SOUTHWEST OF SNYDER AND CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN SCURRY COUNTY.

A TORNADO HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY SPOTTERS...TAKE COVER IN A STURDY
BUILDING NOW. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES ARE NOT SAFE.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 400 PM CDT WEDNESDAY
AFTERNOON FOR WEST TEXAS.

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#16 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:19 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIDLAND/ODESSA TX
318 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIDLAND HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
DAWSON COUNTY IN WEST TEXAS...

* UNTIL 400 PM CDT

* AT 312 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR
FRIENDSHIP...OR 12 MILES SOUTHWEST OF LAMESA...MOVING NORTHEAST AT
24 MPH.

* THE STORM WILL AFFECT THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS...
FRIENDSHIP...
KLONDIKE...
TENMILE...
LAMESA...
MIDWAY...
HANCOCK...
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#17 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:34 pm

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#18 Postby RL3AO » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:37 pm

Replacement/expansion of WW219

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 221
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
325 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

PARTS OF NORTHWEST AND WEST CENTRAL TEXAS

EFFECTIVE THIS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 325 PM UNTIL
1100 PM CDT.

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 3 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND
GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE
AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 75 STATUTE
MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM 45 MILES WEST OF MIDLAND
TEXAS TO 5 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF STEPHENVILLE TEXAS. FOR A
COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE
UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU1).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...THIS TORNADO WATCH REPLACES TORNADO
WATCH NUMBER 219. WATCH NUMBER 219 WILL NOT BE IN EFFECT AFTER
325 PM CDT. CONTINUE...WW 217...WW 218...WW 220...

DISCUSSION...TORNADIC SUPERCELLS HAVE DEVELOPED ALONG E/W BOUNDARY
CENTRAL TX AS S/WV TROUGH AND MID LEVEL WIND MAX MOVE ACROSS AREA.
WITH A VERY UNSTABLE AIR MASS IN PLACE AND FAVORABLE VEERING SHEAR
PROFILES...TORNADIC SUPERCELLS WILL CONTINUE EWD VICINITY OF
BOUNDARY AS WELL AS ACROSS WARM SECTOR OF WATCH AREA.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 3 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE
WIND GUSTS TO 70 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO
550. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 25030.


...HALES
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Re: Severe weather/outbreak? - April 23-25

#19 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:14 pm

TXC165-232145-
/O.CON.KMAF.TO.W.0007.000000T0000Z-080423T2145Z/
GAINES TX-
411 PM CDT WED APR 23 2008

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 445 PM CDT FOR CENTRAL
GAINES COUNTY...

AT 408 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
DETECT A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR FAIRVIEW...OR ABOUT
NEAR SEMINOLE...MOVING EAST AT 21 MPH.

SOME LOCATIONS AFFECTED BY THE TORNADO INCLUDE...FAIRVIEW...US
HIGHWAY 52/180...FARM TO MARKET 1788.

A TORNADO MAY FORM AT ANY TIME... TAKE COVER NOW. ABANDON MOBILE
HOMES AND VEHICLES FOR MORE SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS.
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Current MD

#20 Postby Bunkertor » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:15 pm

That´s worth a posting
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