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Re: STS OLGA : RECON

#541 Postby cycloneye » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:31 pm

URNT15 KNHC 112228
AF303 0117A OLGA HDOB 39 20071211
221630 1930N 06836W 9776 00291 0110 +208 +204 102044 047 044 010 00
221700 1928N 06837W 9772 00295 0109 +204 +195 101046 048 043 012 00
221730 1927N 06837W 9773 00291 0107 +206 +195 101045 046 047 010 00
221800 1925N 06837W 9771 00291 0106 +205 +196 103046 048 047 012 00
221830 1924N 06838W 9779 00284 0105 +206 +195 103049 052 047 009 00
221900 1922N 06838W 9770 00292 0104 +207 +185 103051 053 048 006 00
221930 1921N 06839W 9774 00290 0105 +206 +178 103052 055 045 007 03
222000 1920N 06839W 9769 00291 0104 +202 +182 103049 050 046 005 03
222030 1918N 06839W 9778 00285 0104 +201 +180 103049 051 047 006 00
222100 1917N 06839W 9775 00283 0104 +199 +190 102049 050 044 009 03
222130 1915N 06840W 9775 00285 0104 +191 +190 104048 050 046 011 00
222200 1914N 06840W 9774 00283 0102 +194 +189 105048 050 045 010 00
222230 1912N 06840W 9775 00285 0101 +193 +184 105048 048 045 012 00
222300 1911N 06840W 9772 00284 0100 +192 +180 105048 048 046 012 03
222330 1910N 06840W 9778 00280 0102 +188 +188 106047 047 047 019 00
222400 1908N 06840W 9774 00285 0102 +190 +190 106046 047 048 017 00
222430 1907N 06840W 9770 00287 0101 +189 +189 105045 048 050 013 00
222500 1906N 06840W 9778 00280 0102 +186 +186 104042 044 054 021 00
222530 1904N 06839W 9770 00287 0103 +186 +186 111042 043 050 022 00
222600 1903N 06839W 9781 00279 0102 +190 +190 111042 044 045 014 03
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What about 55kts at flight level? SFMR at 54kts.
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#542 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:31 pm

This is the most interesting December (RECON-wise) since Odette in 2003!!!
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#543 Postby dwsqos2 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:32 pm

222500 1906N 06840W 9778 00280 0102 +186 +186 104042 044 054 021 00

SFMR measures winds of 54 knots. Flight-level winds as high as 55 knots were measured as well.
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#544 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:36 pm

Wow, way above the advisory...special advisory perhaps? Winds support 50 kt at least...
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#545 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:37 pm

If they find 65 kt surface winds but a subtropical circulation, it is still Subtropical Storm Olga, and not Hurricane Olga, correct?
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#546 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:41 pm

URNT15 KNHC 112238
AF303 0117A OLGA HDOB 40 20071211
222630 1902N 06838W 9788 00271 0103 +191 +185 129041 043 055 031 00
222700 1902N 06837W 9767 00292 0104 +180 +180 116046 048 060 028 00
222730 1901N 06836W 9776 00285 0105 +191 +187 117050 051 049 023 00
222800 1901N 06835W 9768 00296 0109 +190 +190 123047 049 051 020 00
222830 1900N 06834W 9782 00284 0109 +191 +191 122050 052 051 014 00
222900 1859N 06833W 9772 00293 0109 +186 +186 121044 046 059 020 00
222930 1859N 06832W 9764 00298 0107 +191 +191 115045 046 048 028 00
223000 1858N 06831W 9791 00272 0105 +201 +201 114049 050 047 019 00
223030 1857N 06830W 9769 00294 0106 +201 +201 116040 044 043 014 03
223100 1857N 06829W 9791 00275 0107 +201 +201 119044 046 047 016 00
223130 1856N 06828W 9771 00290 0106 +191 +191 118048 049 048 017 00
223200 1856N 06827W 9768 00294 0108 +194 +194 120046 047 047 014 00
223230 1855N 06826W 9782 00283 0109 +183 +183 121047 049 053 013 00
223300 1854N 06825W 9767 00296 0108 +183 +183 120046 047 053 020 00
223330 1854N 06824W 9774 00289 0108 +184 +184 121046 047 054 023 00
223400 1853N 06823W 9774 00289 0109 +187 +187 121045 046 051 027 00
223430 1853N 06822W 9777 00288 0106 +213 +205 120046 048 050 022 00
223500 1852N 06821W 9776 00289 0107 +213 +202 120044 046 048 014 00
223530 1851N 06820W 9779 00286 0107 +212 +212 119044 046 046 011 00
223600 1851N 06819W 9774 00291 0108 +214 +213 123043 045 045 005 00
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60 kt SFMR
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#547 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:42 pm

60 in SFMR...and no flags for it either! :eek:
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#548 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:42 pm

brunota2003 wrote:60 in SFMR...and no flags for it either! :eek:


Given the flight-level winds, I'd say 55 kt at this point is the correct intensity. But if we get higher winds, maybe we have a hurricane?
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#549 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:48 pm

it would be Hurricane Olga

In 1984, Lili was a subtropical Storm with 65KT winds and was upgraded to a hurricane
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#550 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:50 pm

URNT15 KNHC 112248
AF303 0117A OLGA HDOB 41 20071211
223630 1850N 06818W 9768 00298 0109 +212 +212 123041 043 044 004 00
223700 1850N 06817W 9778 00289 0109 +214 +210 125045 047 046 001 00
223730 1849N 06815W 9768 00299 0109 +214 +207 127046 048 044 002 00
223800 1849N 06814W 9779 00290 0110 +213 +197 129045 046 046 000 00
223830 1848N 06813W 9773 00296 0111 +212 +194 128045 046 043 001 00
223900 1848N 06812W 9773 00295 0112 +212 +201 129043 046 041 002 00
223930 1847N 06811W 9779 00292 0113 +212 +205 130041 043 040 001 00
224000 1846N 06810W 9776 00296 0115 +209 +201 132041 041 040 004 00
224030 1846N 06809W 9780 00293 0116 +209 +200 133041 043 039 004 00
224100 1845N 06808W 9776 00296 0117 +203 +200 133040 042 038 008 00
224130 1845N 06807W 9768 00304 0117 +205 +203 132035 036 038 007 00
224200 1844N 06805W 9773 00302 0118 +210 +210 135033 035 038 007 00
224230 1844N 06804W 9778 00298 0118 +212 +209 133032 034 037 007 00
224300 1843N 06803W 9772 00305 0119 +214 +198 134030 032 033 006 00
224330 1842N 06802W 9774 00302 0119 +214 +201 129027 028 033 004 00
224400 1842N 06801W 9774 00302 0120 +215 +194 132026 026 033 003 03
224430 1841N 06800W 9774 00302 0121 +215 +208 125022 023 999 999 03
224500 1839N 06800W 9771 00305 0120 +215 +199 124024 025 027 005 03
224530 1838N 06801W 9773 00303 0120 +215 +188 125027 028 032 004 00
224600 1837N 06802W 9774 00302 0119 +215 +196 125026 027 032 005 00
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Re: STS OLGA : RECON=55kts,flight level,SFMR 60kts

#551 Postby cycloneye » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:52 pm

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URNT11 KNHC 112249
97779 22400 30187 6810/ 03000 13042 21/// /0012
RMK AF303 0117A OLGA OB 22
SWS = 039KTS
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#552 Postby HenkL » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:52 pm

File voor GoogleEarth available now: http://wxgr.nl/?weer_recon.htm
I'm sorry, a little bit late, but I thought they wouldn't flight today :roll:
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#553 Postby JonathanBelles » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:57 pm

Those numbers dont seem realistic hmmmm...
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#554 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:58 pm

URNT15 KNHC 112258
AF303 0117A OLGA HDOB 42 20071211
224630 1835N 06803W 9777 00300 0119 +216 +198 127029 031 031 004 00
224700 1834N 06803W 9774 00301 0118 +215 +207 130030 031 032 002 00
224730 1833N 06804W 9781 00294 0118 +217 +198 133034 035 035 004 00
224800 1833N 06804W 9781 00294 0120 +211 +184 137038 039 041 004 00
224830 1830N 06805W 9771 00305 0120 +205 +176 133039 041 046 020 00
224900 1829N 06806W 9776 00298 0119 +204 +179 127039 040 045 016 00
224930 1828N 06807W 9775 00300 0116 +225 +151 130040 041 041 001 03
225000 1827N 06808W 9771 00301 0114 +226 +178 128040 041 039 004 03
225030 1827N 06810W 9774 00296 0113 +222 +169 124038 040 040 004 03
225100 1826N 06811W 9772 00298 9990 +213 +184 119034 036 040 008 30
225130 1825N 06813W 9772 00298 0113 +219 +191 129027 029 032 006 03
225200 1824N 06814W 9771 00298 0112 +218 +209 130025 026 035 007 00
225230 1823N 06814W 9771 00299 0112 +217 +205 136025 025 035 011 00
225300 1821N 06815W 9772 00298 0111 +222 +198 138025 026 031 005 00
225330 1820N 06816W 9772 00296 0111 +218 +191 134024 024 030 007 03
225400 1819N 06816W 9772 00297 0111 +223 +201 140023 024 029 005 00
225430 1818N 06817W 9773 00296 0110 +224 +209 139023 024 030 006 00
225500 1816N 06818W 9772 00297 0110 +221 +203 145023 025 030 007 03
225530 1815N 06818W 9772 00296 0110 +224 +197 147026 026 032 007 03
225600 1814N 06818W 9774 00295 0109 +224 +211 149024 025 032 006 00
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#555 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:59 pm

:uarrow: Nope, it was declared tropical when it was a hurricane. The official term is still subtropical storm. Hurricane implies a tropical system.
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#556 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:02 pm

no it does not, squared the circle. Read the report again. It was named ebcause recon found hurricane force winds

besides, they will have to issue a Hurricane Warning. They CANNOT have a TS warning for a storm with hurricane force winds. It will almost certainly be called a hurricane
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#557 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:04 pm

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/storm_w ... elim02.gif

Here is the Lili report which states that it was named only once hurricane force winds were confirmed, not when it became tropical
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Re: STS OLGA : RECON=55kts,flight level,SFMR 60kts

#558 Postby cycloneye » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:05 pm

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URNT11 KNHC 112300
97779 22550 30182 6830/ 03000 15026 22//6 /0011
RMK AF303 0117A OLGA OB 23
SWS = 029KTS
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#559 Postby Squarethecircle » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 pm

:uarrow: That's wonderful, but I don't see anything referring to it being subtropical at the time it was a hurricane. My sources are contradictory to yours, but if you get that part of the report, I can believe you.
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#560 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 pm

URNT15 KNHC 112308
AF303 0117A OLGA HDOB 43 20071211
225630 1812N 06819W 9772 00294 0109 +224 +209 146023 023 032 003 00
225700 1811N 06819W 9776 00292 0110 +224 +210 148023 025 035 005 00
225730 1809N 06819W 9768 00300 0110 +222 +205 146023 025 033 010 03
225800 1808N 06819W 9770 00298 0109 +223 +198 145024 024 034 007 00
225830 1807N 06819W 9772 00295 0109 +224 +199 149025 026 035 007 00
225900 1805N 06819W 9773 00295 0109 +227 +184 152026 028 034 008 00
225930 1804N 06819W 9770 00298 0109 +227 +202 154026 026 034 006 00
230000 1803N 06819W 9773 00297 0110 +228 +201 162024 025 036 004 00
230030 1801N 06819W 9771 00298 0111 +228 +194 162024 025 036 004 03
230100 1800N 06819W 9763 00305 0111 +225 +207 164024 025 999 999 03
230130 1801N 06817W 9782 00288 0111 +230 +201 162026 027 030 004 00
230200 1802N 06816W 9771 00300 0111 +228 +211 161025 026 031 003 00
230230 1802N 06814W 9774 00296 0111 +231 +180 153027 028 030 004 00
230300 1803N 06813W 9774 00297 0111 +233 +202 157027 028 029 002 00
230330 1804N 06811W 9771 00301 0112 +235 +195 156027 028 030 000 00
230400 1804N 06810W 9771 00300 0113 +235 +186 153027 028 030 000 00
230430 1805N 06808W 9773 00301 0114 +234 +200 154028 029 030 000 00
230500 1805N 06807W 9774 00300 0115 +234 +193 149027 028 031 000 00
230530 1806N 06805W 9769 00306 0116 +228 +179 139028 030 034 002 00
230600 1807N 06804W 9766 00308 0116 +228 +179 140031 033 034 001 00
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