June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

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June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

#1 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:27 pm

I just found out that a later survey upgraded the Elie, MB tornado from F4 to F5 (winds ~205 mph if the EF scale was used, ~270 mph on the old scale).

http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/st ... 03/GIStory

I don't agree with that as the damage wasn't quite as bad as Greensburg IMO, but that is quite remarkable. No one was killed in it. It is Canada's first official F5, although there were a couple of possible F5's decades ago in Saskatchewan.

Just imagine if it happened 30 miles to the east...
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Re: Manitoba tornado (June 22) upgraded to F5

#2 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:51 pm

I learned about this historic Canadian Wx news event just this morning! I was going to make the thread but 10 mins. too late! I can't believe Canada finally has a F5 under it's belt! I knew that funnel has twisting a bit too fast :wink: I agree with the rating.

The weather network channel here in Canada had it as the first news story during the morning and then in the afternoon...nothing! :grr: This is pretty big and I care to hear about it and see some more footage then to hear about topics that have nothing to do with Wx!! :roll:

Environment Canada looked at new video footage of it to determine it so it's a good thing be had some watchers and filmers for that amazing moment. I wish I could have saw that. It was pretty skinny for a F5.

You should change the title of the thread to Canada's first F5 tornado or something because not many will know that. I know Manitoba give it away but some may not know it's the first one ever. I didn't even know that until a while ago.

Another link: Here

I don't agree with that as the damage wasn't quite as bad as Greensburg IMO, but that is quite remarkable

Does that mean it wasn't a F5? Nope. Another thing was the damage to me looked very much like Greensburg, Kansas and the mets who reviewed the case said they were on the fence about the F5 rating with it. Houses lifting up and exploding in mid-air sounds like a F5. Concrete ripped from possibly the ground and then left somewhere not near the original property could have also occurred.
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Re: Manitoba tornado (June 22) upgraded to F5

#3 Postby Gorky » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:26 pm

Here's a download of the video in question.

http://rapidshare.com/files/56856603/CJOBAM_38665B_2007_9_5_9-25-48.wmv



And a couple of screenshots of what it shows incase you can't downlaod from that link and are curious.


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The tornado remidns me a lot of Pampa, 1995 with the cloud motions at ground level and somewhat like the Ellis County tornado earlier this year which preceded the Greensburg event. a very slender rope at times, but with absolutely violent motions at the surface.
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#4 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:33 pm

That goes to show that (E)F5 tornadoes are not always half-mile wide wedges.
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#5 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:27 pm

RL3AO wrote:That goes to show that (E)F5 tornadoes are not always half-mile wide wedges.


Nope, this one was about 350 yards wide at its widest point. If Greensburg had not happened, this would have been even more remarkable as the first (E)F5 in the world this century would have been in Canada! Those winds were probably about 205-215 mph (using the EF scale for the numbers) but that is a guess as I haven't really researched how the EF scale would be used here.
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Re: June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

#6 Postby Gorky » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:45 pm

The more I look at the video, the more I'm sure that object is the van that was thrown several hundred meters. It appears to be the right size. It looks fairly solid. At no point do you see it become thin on the video, so I'd rule out it being some sheet metal. It also shwos as a slightly more metallic colour on one side as it spins through the air. It could be a darkish colour paintjob with that lightness perhaps being from the metallic underside? It would be great if someone could confirm this is the case. If so I wonder how high that is! It dwarfs the structure in front of it. It's also interesting to see how the grain silo near between the tornado is deformed in each successive video. I'd love to see if that is just debris causing that. I wonder if the full video would ever be released.
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Re: June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

#7 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:23 pm

Gorky wrote:The more I look at the video, the more I'm sure that object is the van that was thrown several hundred meters. It appears to be the right size. It looks fairly solid. At no point do you see it become thin on the video, so I'd rule out it being some sheet metal. It also shwos as a slightly more metallic colour on one side as it spins through the air. It could be a darkish colour paintjob with that lightness perhaps being from the metallic underside? It would be great if someone could confirm this is the case. If so I wonder how high that is! It dwarfs the structure in front of it. It's also interesting to see how the grain silo near between the tornado is deformed in each successive video. I'd love to see if that is just debris causing that. I wonder if the full video would ever be released.


After seeing that video, I can say it was definitely an F5. A house blown away like that is classic F5 damage.
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Re: June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

#8 Postby HurricaneBill » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:14 pm

Here's the video on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rl-IlMpfUo
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Re: June 22 Manitoba tornado upgraded - First official Canada F5

#9 Postby tropicana » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:48 pm

that was a scary video. wow
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