Tropical Depression GABRIELLE:Discussions and Images

[windstorm99]

[brunota2003]

Just came back from dinner (first bday dinner, tommorow's my bday) and saw the first towering cumulus off in the distance from the south. Wow, looks like Gabby has improved a bit, and we might get some of that rain (no winds over 45 please, I don't want to have to pick up the yard).

Happy Birthday!

Haha, hoping you had an enjoyable B-day dinner! As for Gabby, long range radar is showing intense reds on the western and NW side of one of the center of circulation's (not sure if it was the well defined one stirring the storms up or the main one, but regardless, they were bright red)

[Bane]

A white oak is a Copperhead I think.
All I know is what they call them around here.

Well we might get a little rain from what the news said

ok, i've never heard a copperhead called that before.

[windstorm99]

[artist]

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[ronjon]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

[gotoman38]

Just came back from dinner (first bday dinner, tommorow's my bday) and saw the first towering cumulus off in the distance from the south. Wow, looks like Gabby has improved a bit, and we might get some of that rain (no winds over 45 please, I don't want to have to pick up the yard).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY OuterBanker!!

I hope that Gabby brings you that much needed rain!!












(and that she brings it to me too!)

[sevenleft]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The 8PN NHC position was 40-50 miles SE of that radar "center".

[Wthrman13]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The lowest tilt of the radar indicates a circulation at about 15000 feet around 33.1 N, 75.7 W which is definitely NW of the NHC 8 p.m. advisory position (by about 30 miles or so). There are a couple possibilities. One is that the LLC really is decoupled from the MLC that far. Another is that the LLC has reformed NW under the vigorous circulation seen on radar.

[storms in NC]

Look to be moving west last few frames. But I think it have been do this allday from what I have read. it would go north then west then NW am I right?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-wv.html

[brunota2003]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The lowest tilt of the radar indicates a circulation at about 15000 feet around 33.1 N, 75.7 W which is definitely NW of the NHC 8 p.m. advisory position (by about 30 miles or so). There are a couple possibilities. One is that the LLC really is decoupled from the MLC that far. Another is that the LLC has reformed NW under the vigorous circulation seen on radar.

Isnt that also right around where the secondary LLC would be right now?

[windstorm99]

Animated radar view...

[sevenleft]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The lowest tilt of the radar indicates a circulation at about 15000 feet around 33.1 N, 75.7 W which is definitely NW of the NHC 8 p.m. advisory position (by about 30 miles or so). There are a couple possibilities. One is that the LLC really is decoupled from the MLC that far. Another is that the LLC has reformed NW under the vigorous circulation seen on radar.

I don't think we'd see a real reformation with how well defined it was earlier today...but the last satellite shots before sunset revealed that the convective complex wasn't moving, while the surface circulation was moving under it. Now it's more difficult to locate it, without visible and without recon. It's possible the surface center has continued to move into the convection, while the convection hasn't moved much.

[gotoman38]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The lowest tilt of the radar indicates a circulation at about 15000 feet around 33.1 N, 75.7 W which is definitely NW of the NHC 8 p.m. advisory position (by about 30 miles or so). There are a couple possibilities. One is that the LLC really is decoupled from the MLC that far. Another is that the LLC has reformed NW under the vigorous circulation seen on radar.

Here is the current radar overlaid on the AVN - looks like the radar is nearly seeing the center?

[storms in NC]

Just came back from dinner (first bday dinner, tommorow's my bday) and saw the first towering cumulus off in the distance from the south. Wow, looks like Gabby has improved a bit, and we might get some of that rain (no winds over 45 please, I don't want to have to pick up the yard).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY OuterBanker!!

I hope that Gabby brings you that much needed rain!!












(and that she brings it to me too!)

And Me 3 Happy Bday

[philnyc]

Look to be moving west last few frames. But I think it have been do this allday from what I have read. it would go north then west then NW am I right?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-wv.html

You just have to average it out. It all comes out to NW or NNW right now. Everyone (including me) loves to figure it out by satellite and radar, but for the real deal, wait for the Hurricane Hunters. They'll fix the movement properly at around 2AM.

[gotoman38]

I'm wondering if that is the MLC we are picking up on radar with the LLC still a good ways to the SE. According to WS track, the center would not be where the radar center is for 12 hrs. Thoughts anyone?

The lowest tilt of the radar indicates a circulation at about 15000 feet around 33.1 N, 75.7 W which is definitely NW of the NHC 8 p.m. advisory position (by about 30 miles or so). There are a couple possibilities. One is that the LLC really is decoupled from the MLC that far. Another is that the LLC has reformed NW under the vigorous circulation seen on radar.

Here is the current radar overlaid on the AVN - looks like the radar is nearly seeing the center?

"sorry to quote myself)

Now that I think about it - the way the naked LLC was moving just before the satellites went to night mode, I think the yellow/orange band on radar really might be the W quad of the center.

[windstorm99]

[Thunder44]

We should have a QS pass this evening, which may reveal where the LLC really is.

[seahawkjd]

So its now west of the forcast track?