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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1281 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:03 pm

Brent,If I say to you,go to talking tropics forum to see the introduction of the big wave off Africa by TPC,will that lift your spirits towards something happening somewhere soon? :)
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1282 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:05 pm

Here's a McIDAS shot with the low center identified:

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#1283 Postby fci » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Looks Like jeanne when she left HATI...We all know what happend next..


Oh, oh, oh...so many sarcastic things to say...
But I have behaved myself so far this season and promise to continue to do so.
Therefore, I will simply say that I see no correlation with Jeanne.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1284 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:09 pm

wxman57 wrote:Here's a McIDAS shot with the low center identified:

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looks a little like something trying to wrap around??? maybe :?:


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#1285 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:12 pm

Come on Derek, you were following what the models suggested and made predictions based on scientific evidence. I can't fault you for that, that's what a meteorologist is supposed to do

I should be able to pick out the errors in the models

The UL is FINALLY dropping south instead of SE, though it took much longer than expected to do so. The low level convergence needs to re-establish itself around the center now, which may take 12-24 hours. This likely won't occur until the shear lessens, which should be 24 more hours. The result is one day of idea conditions

To be fair, we just saw last week what happens with 24 hours of ideal conditions; but I cannot see that happening with this thing, as it is a little too broad. A Gaston at the most is looking likely at this time
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1286 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:16 pm

cycloneye wrote:Brent,If I say to you,go to talking tropics forum to see the introduction of the big wave off Africa by TPC,will that lift your spirits towards something happening somewhere soon? :)


Honestly, I'm going to be very cautious now. Outside of Dean nothing has formed east of the islands, so I'm skeptical til I see something. Look at 98L...
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1287 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:19 pm

This has been such an extreme season, storms are either weak and struggle to survive or become landfalling Category 5 monsters.
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#1288 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:30 pm

JtSmarts wrote:This has been such an extreme season, storms are either weak and struggle to survive or become landfalling Category 5 monsters.


I know, it is like there is no middle ground...
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#1289 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:32 pm

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/dat ... MBas19.png

Latest QuikSCAT from 2:22 pm EDT - closed circulation at 29.0°N 69.4°W. Still 25 kt highest barbs.
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#1290 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:03 pm

I swear I see the cutest litttle feeder bands on latest visable loop.
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#1291 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:13 pm

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... ive_0.html

The convection on the west side just poofed. I think it's back to a naked swirl.
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#1292 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:16 pm

Still being quite badly sheared tolakram, not so much the convection poofed just thats its been blown to the SE, until this shear is much reduced then no convection that tries to form over the cente ris going to hold on for all that long.

By the way we've had 65 pages for this invest and 88 pages for a landfalling cat-5 Felix!
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#1293 Postby k4sdi » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:29 pm

<Pulling the fork out of the drawer>

Maybe we should just give it a few more hours. Like 12-24 more.
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#1294 Postby curtinnc » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:35 pm

k4sdi wrote:<Pulling the fork out of the drawer>

Maybe we should just give it a few more hours. Like 12-24 more.



Yeah just hold on to that fork a little bit... Let's see how this things survives overnight... Could be a different story with less shear tomorrow...

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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1295 Postby Lowpressure » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:37 pm

Stick the fork in it. Shear has not relaxed as forecasted, every time it attempts to fire convection, it gets blown away.
Could all those forecating models have been wrong? Big bust it appears.
Goes to show, even if all factors point towards development, there is never a 100% scenario.
I would have bet the farm Tuesday this would be a SE coast issue into this weekend- I would be sleeping in the dog house.
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#1296 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:37 pm

Why do the models keep showing this thing developing? The hurricane center has all but written off, JB is the only one who still thinks its going to be anything, This just goes to show how computers are only as smart as the person using them.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1297 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:Brent,If I say to you,go to talking tropics forum to see the introduction of the big wave off Africa by TPC,will that lift your spirits towards something happening somewhere soon? :)



I dont think anything is going to happen this year here. Sorry to say but I wanted it to come, just another let down for me.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1298 Postby Recurve » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:39 pm

Now look at the convection blowing up south of Andros near the tail ? of the trough. I don't know what happened to 99L but I'd not want to see anything get started in the southern Bahamas.

Is it anything more than afternoon trade wind/island convection?
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1299 Postby Lowpressure » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:44 pm

Recurve wrote:Now look at the convection blowing up south of Andros near the tail ? of the trough. I don't know what happened to 99L but I'd not want to see anything get started in the southern Bahamas.


Is it anything more than afternoon trade wind/island convection?


IMO, It just looks like afternoon storms aided by the old frontal boundry.
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Re: Invest 99L,Off U.S.E.Coast: Discussions-Analysis & Imagery

#1300 Postby xironman » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:46 pm

Actually for the first time I am seeing the clouds along the old front start to bend to it as opposed to going in a bee-line to the NE.
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