Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

Chat about anything and everything... (well almost anything) Whether it be the front porch or the pot belly stove or news of interest or a topic of your liking, this is the place to post it.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
flwxwatcher
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 926
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 3:35 pm
Location: Central Florida

Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#1 Postby flwxwatcher » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:34 pm

0 likes   

User avatar
Tstormwatcher
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3086
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:31 pm
Location: New Bern, NC

#2 Postby Tstormwatcher » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:56 pm

Gee if I remember right, even accuweather was predicting Dean to hit Texas early on. And their long range forecasts are worthless. This guy is an idiot. Do a Google search and see all of the ridiculas ideas he has.
0 likes   

flwxwatcher
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 926
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 3:35 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#3 Postby flwxwatcher » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:20 pm

Agreed , I in fact did a search on this Character and it seems clear what motives are. Certain weather sites have been trying to water down the NWS for years in the hopes people would pay for their weather services. To me this looks like a lobbyist for certain weather companies. Now that Rick Santorum is out of office and can no longer help said weather company they need some new lackey to spread Trash talk and promote there cause. Just my 2 cents
0 likes   

User avatar
Category 5
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10074
Age: 35
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:00 pm
Location: New Brunswick, NJ
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#4 Postby Category 5 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:59 pm

Typical nonsense from Fixed News. :roll:

The same people who can't get the Saffir Simpson scale right.
The same people who have "mets" that mix up Hurricanes and Tornadoes.
The same people who keep pretending Dean is going to signficantly affect Texas.

That about shows the credibility of this article.
0 likes   

User avatar
vbhoutex
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 29113
Age: 73
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:31 pm
Location: Cypress, TX
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#5 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:45 pm

OMG!! What a bad article. The man doesn't bother to add things like the private companies are paid to do forecasts for a small specific area normally as opposed to what the NWS does which is forecasts for larger areas for everyone, not just a specific type of industry. I am not going to waste my time tearing it apart, it does a pretty good job of it by itself if anyone knows anything at all about the weather.
0 likes   

Opal storm

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#6 Postby Opal storm » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:51 pm

Well that's it, no more Fox News for me. They've hit rock bottom. Not gonna waste my time over this nonsense article.
0 likes   

User avatar
Category 5
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10074
Age: 35
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:00 pm
Location: New Brunswick, NJ
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#7 Postby Category 5 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:57 pm

If what I posted before didn't discredit this article enough.

The network with reporters that stand in 50mph winds and compare it to Katrina


And Sean Hannity says "The experts predicted that 10 hurricanes WOULD HIT THE UNITED STATES this year"

BTW, the NHC did a fine job forecasting Dean.
0 likes   

User avatar
Aslkahuna
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 4550
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:00 pm
Location: Tucson, AZ
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#8 Postby Aslkahuna » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:05 am

It's not just Fox asking questions but CNN too and Nightline had Max Mayfield on discussing Dean rather than the current NHC director. NWS and NHC have a major PR problem that people wanting to take them over are going to exploit. From a PR standpoint, it didn't help NOAA, NWS and NHC to be squabbling like a bunch of school kids in front of the media and the Public at the beginning of the season-doesn't exactly instill much confidence.

Steve
0 likes   

User avatar
vbhoutex
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 29113
Age: 73
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:31 pm
Location: Cypress, TX
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#9 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:27 am

Point well taken Steve, but NHC did a GREAT JOB with Dean!!! The article at best is bogus crap!!!
0 likes   

User avatar
Dionne
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1616
Age: 74
Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:51 am
Location: SW Mississippi....Alaska transplant via a Southern Belle.

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#10 Postby Dionne » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:02 am

I'm confused? Here is my take on the read.

John Lott is a "senior research scientist"......at the University of Maryland. From this I expect he has tenure and cannot be fired. Kind of like his statement about the NWS 882 million dollar budget that "never shrinks". Which he rounded up to a billion dollars. Big gap there.

Mr. Lott appears to be a gun control freak......one of his more recent published opinions. I'm having trouble mixing gun control and weather forecasting. Apparently he is an expert in both fields?

Here's a question....does Mr. Lott get payed for his published opinions? Is he double dipping?

I use the NWS......it is my opening page. The weather affects my work. The information is critical. I credit the warnings with the impending Katrina landfall for saving our crane. 90 miles inland....I had no plans too lay the crane down......changed my mind after reading the ominous warning.

My father was a NWS forecaster. At his retirement he had 43 years of forecasting under his belt. I wonder how many private forecasting companies can boast having meteorologists with this much experience?

I would suspect John Lott as being an alarmist and an opportunist.
0 likes   

User avatar
TexasStooge
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 38127
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:22 pm
Location: Irving (Dallas County), TX
Contact:

#11 Postby TexasStooge » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:42 am

I'd like to tell John Lott to try and predict where the next Hurricane makes landfall.
0 likes   

User avatar
brunota2003
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 9476
Age: 34
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:56 pm
Location: Stanton, KY...formerly Havelock, NC
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#12 Postby brunota2003 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:20 pm

The funny thing is that people are slamming Fox News for it. It is an editorial, not some giant article from them! Some person wrote it and decided to post it as his take on things, and by no means does that mean that all of FN is biased that way. It's just one person, however that one person needs to go get his eyes and brain checked before he writes any more articles.
0 likes   

User avatar
vbhoutex
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 29113
Age: 73
Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2002 11:31 pm
Location: Cypress, TX
Contact:

Re: Editoral trashes National Hurricane Center and NWS

#13 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:07 pm

brunota2003 wrote:The funny thing is that people are slamming Fox News for it. It is an editorial, not some giant article from them! Some person wrote it and decided to post it as his take on things, and by no means does that mean that all of FN is biased that way. It's just one person, however that one person needs to go get his eyes and brain checked before he writes any more articles.

Especially about the NHC or NWS!!!!!
0 likes   

User avatar
Tstormwatcher
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3086
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:31 pm
Location: New Bern, NC

#14 Postby Tstormwatcher » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm

Fox news deserves to be slammed for actually allowing something like that to be on their site.
0 likes   

User avatar
wxmann_91
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8013
Age: 34
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Southern California
Contact:

Re:

#15 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:20 pm

Tstormwatcher wrote:Fox news deserves to be slammed for actually allowing something like that to be on their site.

Freedom of speech.

Anyhow, I really don't think NWS forecast 10 hurricanes to hit the U.S. That has never happened before. Therefore, obviously some research wasn't done right.
0 likes   


Return to “Off Topic”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests