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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#321 Postby Special K » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:35 pm

Does anyone have a rough ETA of arrival in South Florida area if models hold up?

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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-18:00 UTC models posted

#322 Postby Dynamic » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:36 pm

mutley wrote:
gtalum wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:...bears watching...


You mean like these bears?

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Or more like these?

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Hey guys, I have to make a question. Please excuse my ignorance but I'm not familiarized with this. When you said "is bear watching" for all those systems in their very first development steps, what this mean? What is the sense behind this phrase?

Thanks!
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#323 Postby destruction92 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:36 pm

ronjon wrote:From NWS Melbourne AFD:

FRI-SUN...FCST WILL DEPEND ON FUTURE TRACK/DEVELOPMENT OF THE
DISORGANIZED T-WAVE BTWN 50W-60W. ATTM...MID-RANGE HPC/NHC
COORDINATED FCST BRINGS A SPOT LOW ACROSS THE CENTRAL FL PENINSULA FRI-SAT.
GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN BOTH TRACK AND DEVELOPMENT... WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE FCST THRU THIS TIME FRAME.


Once again, even if 92L develops and affects Florida, it should stay well north of SE Florida.
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#324 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:36 pm

Also click on this link which shows there is a clear mid-level rotation in that area that I said above...

something is definitely forming:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-avn.html
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#325 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:37 pm

I think a low has formed, according to the text of the TCFA.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html

I can see rotation below the cirrus, I think anyway.
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#326 Postby windstorm99 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:37 pm

92L Intensity...

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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#327 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:37 pm

destruction92 wrote:
ronjon wrote:From NWS Melbourne AFD:

FRI-SUN...FCST WILL DEPEND ON FUTURE TRACK/DEVELOPMENT OF THE
DISORGANIZED T-WAVE BTWN 50W-60W. ATTM...MID-RANGE HPC/NHC
COORDINATED FCST BRINGS A SPOT LOW ACROSS THE CENTRAL FL PENINSULA FRI-SAT.
GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN BOTH TRACK AND DEVELOPMENT... WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE FCST THRU THIS TIME FRAME.


Once again, even if 92L develops and affects Florida, it should stay well north of SE Florida.


Nope...with a ridge building to the north a W to WSW track for a couple of days is very possible...many storms have done this: Katrina, Andrew, Jeanne, etc.
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#328 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:37 pm

ronjon wrote:From NWS Melbourne AFD:

FRI-SUN...FCST WILL DEPEND ON FUTURE TRACK/DEVELOPMENT OF THE
DISORGANIZED T-WAVE BTWN 50W-60W. ATTM...MID-RANGE HPC/NHC
COORDINATED FCST BRINGS A SPOT LOW ACROSS THE CENTRAL FL PENINSULA FRI-SAT.
GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES IN BOTH TRACK AND DEVELOPMENT... WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE FCST THRU THIS TIME FRAME.


Maybe an undeveloped low across Central FL. Named systems landfalling from the East between Vero Beach through Georgia are very rare. I'll error on no developed system coming to FL unless it happens S of Vero Beach. It has and can happen, but I will always bet on climatology when it comes to landfalls between Vero and Georgia. JMHO
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#329 Postby Jevo » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:38 pm

Bears (fans) watching 92L

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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#330 Postby Canelaw99 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:39 pm

I've seen the current SST map, but where might I find the one that shows the pressure and winds that could be sustained by the water? Thanks!
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#331 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:39 pm

windstorm99 wrote:92L Intensity...

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wow SHIPS brings it to 75K already -- not a good sign :eek:
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#332 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:42 pm

I don't think the models intensified Dean that quickly when it first became an invest.
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#333 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Here is the 7 day forecast from HCP-TPC coordinated track of 92L. Again, this 5-7 days out so I wouldn't focus on the exact placement of the low whether it's central or south FL.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/day0-7loop.html
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#334 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:43 pm

This needs to be watched closely. Gonna be windy and rainy in the next
week...possibly.
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#335 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:43 pm

SHIPs intensity guidance pretty much assumes development of a closed circulation (which we don't have yet) ... so take than more as what the potential is if development does occur.
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#336 Postby mel38 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:44 pm

floater 2 pic :uarrow: of remmnants of erin?
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#337 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:44 pm

RL3AO wrote:I don't think the models intensified Dean that quickly when it first became an invest.


Much warmer water and better environment in the western Atlantic ocean versus the eastern Atlantic.
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#338 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:45 pm

Looks like convection is starting to blow up near where I think the center is forming...that blob to the SE of this area is just feeding into the center just off to the NW......

folks it does now appear to be organizing...slowly...but it is
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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#339 Postby windstorm99 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:45 pm

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Re: Invest 92L,West Atlantic-Discussions-Analysis and Images

#340 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:46 pm

Okay looking at windstorm's graphic I think the center is forming in the square between 25 and 20N and 55 and 60W
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