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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1261 Postby Windspeed » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:00 am

Ugh, Dean is moving at nearly 20kts. Mid-level shear is relaxing, but the steering flow is still 20kts. There is no way this storm is only at 55W in 60 hours! In 60 hours this storm will already be through the Windards and in the Northeast Caribbean. This makes a huge difference on position versus the steering flow north of the Greater Antilles. I would not trust these runs beyond 50 hours right now until we have some better data or the models start initializing this system at correct forward speed!!
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#1262 Postby cyclonic chronic » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:01 am

dean deffinately looks better than it did 6 hrs. ago. MLC and LLC seem to be lining up on vis. sat., though it is being sheared. imagine if shear was really lax, this thing could bomb out rather quickly!
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#1263 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:01 am

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:If trough doesn't get it, it will be GOM


With the ridge building back in...yes...Im watching to see how sharp the trough digs in...cant wait!
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#1264 Postby WxGuy1 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:02 am

x-y-no wrote:Another ominous looking run for the Leewards and Puerto Rico ...


Yeah, especially by hr 72. That weak upper-level low off the southeastern US coast looks like it still may separate the Atlantic ridge and the southern US ridge enough to allow Dean to escape northwestward. I guess it matters how far south Dean can stay. If Dean stays south enough to avoid being pulled northwestward and northward by the southerly flow between the ULL and the ULH, I think it could miss that 'escape slot'. Of course, there's no way to know if that'll happen now, but the fast, WSW motion that Dean has been taking the past 24 hours isn't helping.
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#1265 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:02 am

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1266 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:03 am

Dean is starting to look impressive, with a CDO forming right over the LLC and outflow expanding in most quads but east. I say this is close to 50 knots. This has a chance to strengthen rapidly. We will see,,,
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#1267 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:03 am

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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1268 Postby CourierPR » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:04 am

Are the mountains of Puerto Rico high enough to disrupt Dean's circulation?
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1269 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:04 am

Big shift south!

Hurricane over Martinique in that run.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1270 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:05 am

Sanibel wrote:Big shift south!


as of now...next few hours of the run are key
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1271 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am

CourierPR wrote:Are the mountains of Puerto Rico high enough to disrupt Dean's circulation?


Mountains might be high enough, but there aren't enough of them.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1272 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am

Not big but one can see a little southern, per last night's run.
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#1273 Postby storms in NC » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am

This is all going to change. I wouldn't take this to the bank yet.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1274 Postby destruction92 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:06 am

Why is it that every few hours for the past few days we have just been posting GFS nonsense???(which can't even initialize the correct location and speed of an already DEVELOPED tropical system!)

What about other model runs...like GFDL, NOGAPS, Canadian, and Euro????

We all know how wise it is to depend on just 1 model for guidance!

Sorry for fuming, but I think it is about time we start to see some reliable data.
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean Advisories Only

#1275 Postby Jinkers » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:07 am

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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1276 Postby vacanechaser » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:07 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Big shift south!


as of now...next few hours of the run are key



the shift could be in part due to the further south position of the center now



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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1277 Postby x-y-no » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:07 am

RL3AO wrote:
CourierPR wrote:Are the mountains of Puerto Rico high enough to disrupt Dean's circulation?


Mountains might be high enough, but there aren't enough of them.


Yeah, I think that's right.

Hispaniola can tear a storm to shreds, though.
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#1278 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:07 am

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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1279 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:08 am

Not sure but looks to be getting picked up at 90hrs...
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1280 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:08 am

vacanechaser wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Big shift south!


as of now...next few hours of the run are key



the shift could be in part due to the further south position of the center now



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Thats what Im thinking...already a close call for the trough picking it up..well see
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