Alec Baldwin calls daughter quote: Thoughtless little pig

[Windswept]

And we're just the eager spectators adding to the mess in this child's life now, aren't we?
They all need to grow up...

Bingo!

It is correct that no one should ever speak to a child like that, but we all have done or said foolish, stupid, and hurtful things under stress. Hopefully, he will learn from his mistake and the entire family will seek help, but it is a private matter that does not need to be made worse by an entire country of arm chair psychologists publicly dissecting something they do not fully understand.

[abajan]

my huisband's daughter has been just that, a thoughtless little pig, since she was 12. she is now 28.

Is she now a thoughtless big pig?

[Brent]

my huisband's daughter has been just that, a thoughtless little pig, since she was 12. she is now 28.

Is she now a thoughtless big pig?

That was mean but funny.

[alicia-w]

but actually, yes, she is....

[kevin]

The guy should be shot. I heard the message and its probably the vilest sounding thing I've ever heard. Most of all it disturbed my breakfast. Freaking madman. He shouldn't see his daughter ever again. End of story.

[Terrell]

I really don't see the problem here, if his daughter is acting like a thoughtless little pig, shouldn't the parent point that out and correct the daughter? This is especially true if the child has shown a pattern of behaving in a way that it inconsiderate of others, or failing to meet commitments? Would you want to hire her for a job when she grows up, if she doesn't keep her committments, and doesn't really care to do so?

[MSRobi911]

I'm sorry, but how many of ya'll have raised a 12 year old female?????????????????????? They are not nice people most of the time, they can be nasty, mean mouthed, rude, etc. etc. etc... believe me, I know, I raised one. She is now 22 and I love her to death, don't get me wrong, I loved her then, but did I loose my temper at her at times? of course I did. Did I say things I shouldn't have said, of course I did, I am human. Do I regret that I said those things, of course I do. Does she reqret that she acted like a @#$!@#$!@#$ of course she does. This is being blown so out of porportion it is just plain stupid. Instead of getting on the parent that tries to talk to their child....how about going off on the ones that don't show they care or the ones that physically abuse their child.

Mary

[kevin]

Uh, this was emotional abuse plain as day, which is just as bad. Calling anyone a thoughtless pig is ridiculous.

I have encountered my fair share of verbal abuse, and this was over the top. When I heard it I groaned.

[southerngale]

It looks like the link was removed, probably because the language was so vile. If you want to hear it, let me know, and I'll send it to you if you're an adult. I understand that parents lose their tempers with their kids and say things they shouldn't, but this was several minutes of Daddy cussing out and screaming at his 11 (12? sounded like he wasn't sure) year old child. It is sickening. So if you haven't heard it and are just reading the article, trust me when I say that you aren't getting it.

Of course you can point out that your child is being thoughtless, etc. This is not the way to do it. If you haven't heard it, listen. Then tell me that's an ok way to treat a child for missing a phone call... or any other reason for that matter.

And it's hardly fair to compare a 11 or 12 year old girl missing a phone call (and we don't even know why) to not wanting to hire her when she grows up for a job because she can't keep commitments. She's a kid. That's just silly, imo.

[MGC]

First the left tried to take away corporal punishment, now yelling a cuss word at your kid is child abuse. Give me a break. The kid likely uses far more colorful language when Mom and Dad are not around. If the kid listens to rap music she has heard far worst than Dad diatribe......MGC

[gtalum]

First the left tried to take away corporal punishment, now yelling a cuss word at your kid is child abuse.

What does "the left" have to do with it? Alec Baldwin is a card-carrying member of "the left". "The left" are not the ones attacking him. What he said was a bit over the top, but I agree, it's not child abuse.

[kevin]

First the left tried to take away corporal punishment, now yelling a cuss word at your kid is child abuse. Give me a break. The kid likely uses far more colorful language when Mom and Dad are not around. If the kid listens to rap music she has heard far worst than Dad diatribe......MGC

(1) Punishment = instruction. This wasn't instruction. This will not help the child.
(2) I haven't heard that kind of language, ever, and I've been in the mess of cursing and vile language before.
(3) Rappers aren't the same as a father who is supposed to look out for the welfare of their child.

It is not a constitutionally protected right to abuse children mentally. Parenthood does not equal ownership, it denotes responsibility for the child's welfare.

I'm alright with spanking when its done in a rational manner. Same with strong chiding. Never demeaning a person's worth when their sense of security is your responsibility.

[MiamiensisWx]

First the left tried to take away corporal punishment, now yelling a cuss word at your kid is child abuse. Give me a break. The kid likely uses far more colorful language when Mom and Dad are not around. If the kid listens to rap music she has heard far worst than Dad diatribe......MGC

Firstly, I strongly agree with some of the points in Kevin's post. Although I understand and completely respect your point of view, we do not know what really happened. We do not know about the circumstances. It is hard to make a judgement under these situations. In addition, this was a personal issue between Baldwin and his daughter.

Secondly, I do not advocate an anti-discipline point of view. At the same time, I believe constructive discipline is the key to success. This is just my opinion but discipline for each situation must fit within the situation. Each problem is different. Every individual has a variety of specific needs. While spanking is good for some situations (and people), other forms of consistent discipline are more effective for other individuals. I think consistency is the most important feature of discipline. The methods can vary according to each individual's character but it must be consistent.

I'm just offering my two cents.

[southerngale]

Let's keep politics out of this. We allow talk about current events and stuff like that, but when you get into "the left did this" and "the right did that" (DEM vs REP), we're gonna have some problems.

[Stephanie]

I'm sorry, but how many of ya'll have raised a 12 year old female?????????????????????? They are not nice people most of the time, they can be nasty, mean mouthed, rude, etc. etc. etc... believe me, I know, I raised one. She is now 22 and I love her to death, don't get me wrong, I loved her then, but did I loose my temper at her at times? of course I did. Did I say things I shouldn't have said, of course I did, I am human. Do I regret that I said those things, of course I do. Does she reqret that she acted like a @#$!@#$!@#$ of course she does. This is being blown so out of porportion it is just plain stupid. Instead of getting on the parent that tries to talk to their child....how about going off on the ones that don't show they care or the ones that physically abuse their child.

Mary

I'm sure you remember when you were 11 or 12 years old as well. I know I wasn't an angel, but as I said earlier, I would've been devastated if my father talked to me like that when I was that age. The ONLY thing I knew was that I NEVER wanted to disappoint my parents and was pretty much why I did so well in school.

Emotional abuse is just a bad and perhaps worse than physical abuse.

[MSRobi911]

Stephanie and SG

I will admit I did not listen to the entire conversation. From what I heard it was not a big deal. No he shouldn't have called her names that was very childish of him. But no one knows the history of what he has gone through and it sounds as if this wasn't the first "pre-arranged" phone call that she has missed. I won't get into that. I know that I was a total butthead when I was that old, and my mother wished upon me a beautiful wonderful daughter who was the same way. You know, how your Mom always said, one day you are going to have a daughter and I want you to remember this......boy did I remember and wish I had not acted and talked the way I did. No I didn't back talk my mother and she didn't verbally abuse me, I knew better, she would have slapped the every loving crap out of me as soon as it left my mouth. I knew better than to disrespect my parents, even though my father was an alcoholic and deserved really deserved some kind of reaction from me, I kept my mouth shut for a long time. But these days, children do not respect anyone and say pretty much what they want to. This comes from their peers and their parents letting them get away with it. I was with my children in all kinds of school functions and stood in the background a lot to see what was going on. I can't tell you how many times I heard the F word come from 10 year olds mouths along with a multitude of other curse words. They hear it at home from older siblings or TV/movies, they hear it from the music they listen to, they hear it from their parents sometimes and so therefore it is repeated. Does it make it right, no, certainly not.

Mary

[Stephanie]

Mary - I TOTALLY understand what you are saying about kids now a days. Ireland is a product of her upbringing and society as a whole. I'm sure that she is a bratty 11 year old, but I can't imagine the verbal abuse that she's heard slung between her parents and probably thinks it's very acceptable. Where there's smoke, there's fire and I doubt that this is the first time he's gone on a tirade like this and I'm sure it's a scary sight. He said that this is "the crap" that he's had to put up with for 6 years, but is it Ireland or her mother, Kim Bassinger? If it is Kim, then he's certainly taking his frustrations out on the wrong person.

At anyrate, it's a sad situation for Ireland.

[vbhoutex]

I have raised a smart mouth 12 yr. old female and an even more smart mouth 12 yr. old male.

I heard his phone call or at least a portion of it. NO ONE ON THIS EARTH DESERVES TO BE TREATED LIKE HE DID HER-NO MATTER WHAT. Personally, I will no longer watch anything with him involved in it if it can be avoided. IMO, the man is SCUM!!!!

[Opal storm]

When you call your daughter a thoughtless pig you are just downsizing yourself to a 12 year old.Act like a adult.

[Pburgh]

Yes, I've raised two daughters as a single parent. If their father would have talked to them like this just one time, it would have been the last time. I sometimes think verbal abuse has a more lasting pain than physical abuse.