"LOST" Thread - Part 2

[Derek Ortt]

pointless filler ep tonight.

Please kill Hurley off next week... please. He is adding nothing but more idiocy to the losties

[Miss Mary]

I actually loved tonight's episode. I've wanted to see Charlie, Claire, Sun, Jin, Hurley, Sayid, Locke, even the dog!

The flashbacks grew a little annoying. I'd prefer island time from now on. And preferably focusing on the group mentioned above. Plus Jack, Kate & Sawyer.

Now Nicki and Paulo - they could be killed off and I wouldn't miss them. But not Hurley!

The car discovery reminded me of when they played golf - yes filler episode but necessary, IMHO. They have to let off steam somehow! Cracked up at all of Sawyer's comebacks again and propping up Roger, drinking next to him. Somehow that was funny, surprising huh? After all they've been thru, drinking with a skeleton sure beats facing the others!

[wx247]

The flashbacks are not annoying at all to me. Slowly, we are starting to see how things are piecing together. We now know why Hurley is going back to Australia which puts him on the doomed flight. What does he find when he is there? We will find out soon enough. I was hoping the end of the show would be more climatic, but it was 1000x better than last week's episode.

[lurkey]

Yes, it is filler, but good filler (better than last week).

It is the calm before the storm. Questions will start being answered next episode.

And Sawyer:

Next for flashbacks: Sayid and Claire.

[Miss Mary]

I meant slighly annoying. I grew tired of seeing his father in flashbacks but you're right, more pieces to the puzzle fell into place. Garrett - I'm guessing you thought that was a nice tribute to Libby, the scene at her grave? I thought so.

And oh, one final comment before I turn in: God Bless Kate tonight. Jack was uppermost in her mind. And I love her character for that! And God Bless Sayid and Locke - who were right behind her. You knew Sawyer wouldn't try to rescue Jack (so soon, maybe later if he got some tail along the way with Kate....wow, that's nasty, sorry) but Sawyer was just happy to be home again (it seemed to me).

Kate's resolve to rescue Jack is why she's my second favorite character!

[O Town]

See I thought last week was better than last night. It seemed a little cheesy at some points last night, which I don't think I have ever thought about LOST.

Next week looks good.

And Sawyer, I just have always loved him, my favorite crack of the night.......he he, when he meets up with Jin and Hurley in the woods and Jin mutters a few english words and his response was, ah look whos hooked on phonics.

Jack? Jack who? Just teasin Mary. Should be interesting to see next week when they try to take him back.

[Miss Mary]

OTown - you've been listening to Derek too much!!!! Jack who.....LOL Out of sight, out of mind? NEVAH!!!!

Yeah, I loved that line too. My daughter repeated it again this morning...."hooked on phonics".....Sawyer has the best lines! Hurley too.

[Miss Mary]

SPOILER ALERT!!!! Do not read if you don't like spoilers!



From TV Guide's Ausiello Q & A column:

http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Colum ... fault.aspx

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Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Question: Do you know which upcoming episode of Lost will contain the "significant story bomb/game changer" that Damon Lindelof told you about way back in November?— Yema
Ausiello: Good question. I managed to get my grubby little mitts on tonight's Damon Lindelof/Carlton Cuse-penned outing, "Enter 77," and, although it's pretty significant — not to mention edge-of-your-seat spine-tingly — I don't think it qualifies as game-changing. What makes it significant, you ask? Well, we kinda-sorta learn (Spoiler alert) the connection between Dharma and the Others, as well as the identity of creepy *y*-****h guy. Oh, and a series regular gets shot, a recurring character gets killed, and someone we've seen before utters the following line: "I'm the last living member of the Dharma Initiative."

Question: I need Lost scoop.— Angie
Ausiello: Damon and Carlton make me laugh hard. In the letter that accompanied the screener for "Enter 77," they took aim at a certain faction of impossible-to-please Lost fans by cheekily cautioning, "For those of you who want beach stories, you'll be disappointed. Until next week. For those of you who want answers, you'll be happy. Until next week." What about those of us who want beach stories and answers?! What about us?!

Question: Any new scoop on Lost?— Kelly
Ausiello: Sawyer delivers what I'm pretty sure is the funniest line of Lost dialogue ever in "Enter 77." You'll know it when you hear it. Trust me.

Question: Is it safe to assume that Jack and Claire on Lost are siblings, since John Terry, who plays Jack's dad, is scheduled to appear in her flashback episode next week?— Traci
Ausiello: I think it's safe to assume that that question will be answered.

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I hope it's either Nikki or Paulo. But it better not be Charlie! If it is Charlie, it almost seems too obvious, given Desmond's recent ominous warning. No I've decided that would be half the mystery, we'd be expecting it to be Charlie. And it won't be. Breathing a sigh of relief (almost!).

Till tonight's ep....
Mary

[wx247]

I think killing Charlie this early is too predictable as well. I imagine he will die when we least expect it. Thanks for the scoop Miss Mary!

[lurkey]

Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Question: Do you know which upcoming episode of Lost will contain the "significant story bomb/game changer" that Damon Lindelof told you about way back in November?— Yema
Ausiello: Good question. I managed to get my grubby little mitts on tonight's Damon Lindelof/Carlton Cuse-penned outing, "Enter 77," and, although it's pretty significant — not to mention edge-of-your-seat spine-tingly — I don't think it qualifies as game-changing. What makes it significant, you ask? Well, we kinda-sorta learn (Spoiler alert) the connection between Dharma and the Others, as well as the identity of creepy *y*-****h guy. Oh, and a series regular gets shot, a recurring character gets killed, and someone we've seen before utters the following line: "I'm the last living member of the Dharma Initiative."

Agreed. It isn't this episode. A CYA, b/c I reference specific episode #s and flashback episodes (that some may not want to know) mixed in with speculation:
[spoil]The discussion is that the game changer starts at the end of episode 11 continues through episode 12 which happens to be Claire's flashback episode. And to be honest, it could continue through to Locke's flashback episode to Nikki's and Paulo's flashback episodes. For those trying to count the # of episodes, that's a 4 episode block of answer-filled goodness starting tonight. [/spoil]

And Jack's back in episode 13...

Question: I need Lost scoop.— Angie
Ausiello: Damon and Carlton make me laugh hard. In the letter that accompanied the screener for "Enter 77," they took aim at a certain faction of impossible-to-please Lost fans by cheekily cautioning, "For those of you who want beach stories, you'll be disappointed. Until next week. For those of you who want answers, you'll be happy. Until next week." What about those of us who want beach stories and answers?! What about us?!

We will be getting lots of answers in next ** episodes. I know what questions will be answered. I don't know the answers given, because I didn't want to be that spoiled.

Question: Any new scoop on Lost?— Kelly
Ausiello: Sawyer delivers what I'm pretty sure is the funniest line of Lost dialogue ever in "Enter 77." You'll know it when you hear it. Trust me.

I <3 Sawyer.

Question: Is it safe to assume that Jack and Claire on Lost are siblings, since John Terry, who plays Jack's dad, is scheduled to appear in her flashback episode next week?— Traci
Ausiello: I think it's safe to assume that that question will be answered.

See above. I am staying away from those spoilers.

I hope it's either Nikki or Paulo. But it better not be Charlie! If it is Charlie, it almost seems too obvious, given Desmond's recent ominous warning. No I've decided that would be half the mystery, we'd be expecting it to be Charlie. And it won't be. Breathing a sigh of relief (almost!).

Well, let see, gonna need spoiler text for this one. . .just a CYA. . .

[spoil]There is a flashback episode soon for Nikki and Paulo, but the rumors swirling about Charlie are increasing. . .[/spoil]

[Derek Ortt]

Locke should be cremated alive for stupidity

and these flashbacks are ruining the show. I dont give a rats behind about Sayids days in Iraq

only important thing from tonight is that Ben can no longer watch the Yankees choke

[Derek Ortt]

also, I think we know who the Hostiles are

THE LOSTIES

[wx247]

I think you are going to find that the flashbacks are crucial to the plot of the show. I liked the show this week, more so than the last few weeks.

[Miss Mary]

also, I think we know who the Hostiles are

THE LOSTIES

Derek - if nothing else, you are consistent!!!! We should retitle this show for you, simply - The Others! LOL

I don't mind the occasional flashback, if it's short, if they fill up more than 1/4th of an episode, I begin to find them annoying. However, I enjoyed a glimpse into Sayid's past again. But I worried he was the one we'd lose last night. Silly, but I began praying it wouldn't be Sayid (which was set in stone already, filmed long ago!).

Yes Locke is stupid. Put him next to Sayid and he looks like a total joke. Why does he ignore the prisoner (again) and play with the ancient computers? This aspect of Locke's personality is getting very old by now.

Now if Kate didn't fancy Jack and Sawyer, Sayid would be perfect for her. Those two - Kate/Sayid - seem so in sinc (sp?) with eachother's thinking. Always the same goal - I love that!

Bye bye Mrs. Clue (won't miss ya!).

Hey did you all catch Sawyer's line to either Nikki or Paulo - who are you? Loved that!!!!

No nicknames for a week which will mean in Lost-time - several episodes worth. This will be fun to watch!!!

And Hurley - who knew? I suspected he was going to be great at Ping Pong! (Reminded me of that Friends episode where Chandler revealed he was quite the PP player).

Mary

[lurkey]

also, I think we know who the Hostiles are

THE LOSTIES

The HOSTILES were there on the island before the Losties or DHARMA.

[Miss Mary]

LOL I thought they were there before any of these groups. And then there's Danielle's group - the only 2 left are her daughter and herself. I can't even remember where her group was sailing to when stranded on this island. It sure is a magnet for odd types.....LOL

[Miss Mary]

Two TV Guide Lost articles/reviews.....the first is spoilerish. Emilie de Ravin/Claire, Dominic Monaghan/Charlie and Henry Ian Cusick/Desmond are on the cover of the new TV Guide, on newstands today.

http://www.tvguide.com/Magazine/Cover-Story/

Wednesday, March 7 2007
Lost's Future Shock

No one is safe as mysteries unfold — with a vengeance
by Shawna Malcom

It’s late in the afternoon on Valentine’s Day, and love has found the set of Lost. Josh Holloway, who plays prickly con man Sawyer, nurses a sore throat with a cup of hot tea, his wife, Yessica, by his side. Jorge Garcia, the heartbroken Hurley, huddles attentively with his new girlfriend. Even Evangeline Lilly and Dominic Monaghan — Kate and Charlie — steal occasional kisses, public displays of affection typically avoided by this usually discreet real-life pair.
The playful mood extends beyond the couples, though. Today’s scene, shot on Oahu’s picturesque North Shore for a mid-April episode, is something of a reunion. Except for the taping of a brief dream sequence, the sprawling cast hasn’t performed en masse all season. The gathering has definitely upped the hugs-and-laughs vibe. In between takes, Holloway jumps into the open arms of Matthew Fox, who plays good doc Jack. Garcia, Monaghan and Daniel Dae Kim (Jin) sit in a circle, cracking jokes and tackling a New York Times crossword puzzle. And when Fox is finished clowning with Holloway, he turns to Yunjin Kim (Sun), twirling and gently dipping his costar in a surfside dance. “When I saw Matthew, I was like, ‘Oh, we’re still on the same show? I had no idea!’” Kim says with a laugh. “Having everyone back on the beach, that’s something I’ve missed.”

She’s not the only one. Almost from the moment those mysterious Others kidnapped Jack, Kate and Sawyer at the end of Season 2, many fans began moaning about the trio’s absence from the beach camp. And that was only one criticism — perhaps not even the sharpest — that’s been lobbed at the Emmy-winning drama during its closely scrutinized third season. A few more: What’s up with all the attention being paid to the Others? How about more airtime for the original characters like Sayid and Claire?

And the loudest and most persistent plea: How about some freakin’ answers already?!

As viewer discontent has grown, Lost’s ratings have started to shrink. By the time the show finished its six-episode mini-season in November, it was sometimes getting beaten by CBS’ Criminal Minds. And since its Feb. 7 return at a new 10 pm/ET time slot, Lost has consistently come in second behind CBS’ CSI: NY (though it still wins in the advertiser-coveted 18-49 demographic).

Clearly, that three-month break in momentum, designed to do away with all those much-maligned repeats of Season 2, backfired. “In hindsight, was it the right decision? No,” acknowledges executive producer Carlton Cuse. “But at the time we supported it and thought it was the best compromise.” Says executive producer Damon Lindelof, “We’re 65 hours into a heavily serialized show. Some casual viewers may be gone, but we’re very proud to have the loyal audience we do have.”

And if they’re not exactly doing twirls and dips on the beach about the ratings slip, the producers say they are sure the nonstop run of episodes through May will have viewers hooked again. “We feel confident that by the time you get to the end of Season 3,” Cuse says, “you will feel like you’ve seen really good stories, spent time with the characters that you love and gotten a sufficient dose of answers.”

A big cloud of black smoke? TV Guide has gotten a sneak peek at several upcoming episodes and — while we don’t want to overhype the way ABC’s breathless promos have done recently (so what were those three big answers promised last month?) — we can say that viewers should expect several well-crafted and emotionally satisfying developments.

The March 14 episode, for example, focuses on Claire, though with her flashback-era black hair and goth vibe, she’s hardly the Claire we’ve come to know. “She’s dealing with a lot of stuff with her parents,” Emilie de Ravin reveals. And — SPOILER ALERT! — might her father, in fact, also be Jack’s alcoholic pop? The actress’ lips are sealed. But by the end of the episode, viewers definitely will have met Claire’s mother and father.

The same episode also picks up the Desmond-predicts-Charlie’s-death thread introduced at the end of the Feb. 14 episode. Previews Henry Ian Cusick, who plays psychic Desmond: “I tell Charlie, ‘Whatever Claire has in store for you, don’t go with it, because it’s gonna be your end.’”

For more Lost spoilers, pick up the new issue of TV Guide, on sale Thursday.

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Lost
by Sabrina Rojas Weiss

March 7, 2007: Don't Push the Button; the Button Is Bad
Tonight had a very satisfying balance of plot development and fun beach games. How many shows do you know that can combine torture scenes with ping-pong? It seems like Hurley's taking his role as camp activities director rather seriously. Almost as seriously as Sawyer took his role as purveyor of fine goods and reading material. I'm surprised how quickly everyone agreed to Sun's suggestion that if Sawyer lost, he'd have to stop using nicknames for only a week. You'd think they could get something bigger (or at least a whole month without name-calling), given how confident he was in his skills. For a con man, he's sure lost his ability to spot a hustle. Of course the best lines came out of this little Club Med vignette:

— Sawyer's pre-ping-pong round of nicknames: "Grimace" and "Avalanche" for Hurley; "Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon" for Sun and Jin; "Zorro" for Paulo and "Who the hell are you?" for Nikki. Ha!
— Hurley's explanation that he played ping-pong in his mother's basement and the "insti... place I hung out for a while."

As you might have guessed, I wanted to get that fun stuff done and take a breather before getting into the aptly named Flame station and our new friend, Patches, er, Mikhail Bakunin. I'm wondering what exactly Danielle's been doing for the past 16 years that she never noticed the existence of this quaint little barn with a satellite dish, or even just the cow or the horse (which I'm pretty sure isn't the horse Kate saw last season, right? I think that one was black). For once, though, Crazy French Lady had a pretty good instinct about who was inside. She should teach Locke a thing or two about intuition, since he's so awful about interpreting his own. I had a hunch about Mikhail and his too-convenient story about a truce with the "Hostiles," but I couldn't tell if he was just a bad actor with that stilted speech (he should have left it at "I am the last remaining member of the Dharma Initiative") or a good actor pretending to be a bad actor. Even the cat looked like a suspicious character, and that was before we learned it was named Nadia. Thankfully, Sayid still has his well-honed bulls--t-detecting instincts intact, even while suffering from a bullet wound. It's good to know he can take pain as well as he can dish it. And that brings us to tonight's flashback. We didn't really learn much more about Sayid's past, except that he lived in Paris some time after his escape from Iraq, he's actually a good cook, and Nadia wasn't the only woman he had to "interrogate." That was a pretty good storytelling trick, having us side with Sayid for most of the episode and believing that he'd never tortured that woman, until the very end, when he knew he'd be safe if he admitted it to her alone. My god, that man is even sexy when he's beaten up and crying. Like most of the flashbacks of late, this story was meant to teach us more about the characters' motivations than about any weird coincidences or chain of events. And I guess that means he's keeping Patches alive out of remorse, not just as a hostage and unwilling guide to the "Barracks." As for the casualty of the night, I'm very curious about what went down with angry Kerchief woman. The Others seemed to take the death of one of their own very seriously, and they were so calm and collected before Kate and Sawyer's messy escape. I don't get why suddenly Kerchief felt things were so dire that she needed to sacrifice herself. Unless that's not what she was saying to Mikhail in Russian. Anyone want to translate that conversation for us?

Why would anyone still leave Locke alone with a computer after his last IT disaster? I kind of expected to hear the Debbie Downer music when they all found out what he'd done.

There are quite a few things bugging me about the Flame, like how come it got to exist above ground? Was it really a Dharma station, or was it set up by the Others to look like one? (Never mind, that's just my brain overtaxing itself.) What destroyed the satellite and sonar communications in the first place? What kind of inefficient system makes you play chess in the event of an emergency? What kind of info did they just lose in that explosion? And are the cow and horse OK?

[brunota2003]

LOL I thought they were there before any of these groups. And then there's Danielle's group - the only 2 left are her daughter and herself. I can't even remember where her group was sailing to when stranded on this island. It sure is a magnet for odd types.....LOL

I remember they were on a scientific mission onboard a boat...jog your memory some?

[Miss Mary]

Yes, thank you!

[JQ Public]

pointless filler ep tonight.

Please kill Hurley off next week... please. He is adding nothing but more idiocy to the losties

Hurley can't go! His backstory was one of the main reason's the show was made. But this show needs to pick up some steam...and fast. Its starting to just lose its focus.