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Update: 10 feet of snow reported in NY; storm continues

#1 Postby nystate » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:45 pm

NYZ006>008-031200-
/O.CON.KBUF.LE.W.0007.070203T0400Z-070205T1100Z/
OSWEGO-JEFFERSON-LEWIS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...OSWEGO...WATERTOWN...LOWVILLE
1056 PM EST FRI FEB 2 2007

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
MONDAY...

A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
MONDAY.

SOUTHWEST WINDS BEHIND A DEPARTING COLD FRONT WILL SHIFT TO THE
WEST OVERNIGHT. LAKES SNOW THAT ARE DEVELOPING CLOSE TO THE ST.
LAWRENCE RICER WILL THEN DROP SOUTH ACROSS THE REGION OVERNIGHT
AND SETTLE OVER THE TUG HILL LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY
BEFORE WEAKENING AND LIFTING NORTH OF WATERTOWN IN THE AFTERNOON.

A SECOND COLD FRONT WILL THEN CROSS THE REGION REINFORCING THE
LAKE SNOWS AND AGAIN SHIFTING THEM SOUTH ACROSS THE TUG HILL
SATURDAY NIGHT. THESE SQUALLS WILL PERSIST THROUGH SUNDAY AND
SUNDAY NIGHT.

FOUR TO SIX INCHES OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OVERNIGHT WITH AN
ADDITIONAL SIX TO TWELVE INCHES ON SATURDAY. THERE IS THE
POTENTIAL FOR THREE TO AS MUCH AS FIVE FEET OF NEW SNOW IN THE
MOST PERSISTENT SNOW BY MONDAY MORNING.

STRONG WESTERLY WINDS WILL CREATE CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND
DRIFTING...ESPECIALLY ON NORTH SOUTH ROADS.

IN LAKE EFFECT SNOW THE WEATHER CAN VARY FROM LOCALLY HEAVY SNOW
IN NARROW BANDS TO CLEAR SKIES JUST A FEW MILES AWAY. IF YOU WILL
BE TRAVELING ACROSS THE REGION BE PREPARED FOR RAPID CHANGES IN
ROAD AND VISIBILITY CONDITIONS. STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO
AND OTHER RADIO AND TV STATIONS FOR FURTHER DETAILS OR UPDATES.

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#2 Postby bob rulz » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:17 am

Yeah, the Tug Hill Plateau can get some major snowfall accumulations from significant lake-effect events. With no real pattern change expected, there's supposed to be lake-effect snow all week. That 3-5 feet of snow is only expected to be through Monday morning! :eek: It'll be very interesting to see how much snow falls up there when all is said and done.
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#3 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:04 am

Wow that slight cool down in overall global temps did a lot. 2005 was the warmest year, and I seen less then 1.5" inches of snow. It was a warm year across the US. But 2006-2007 winter I've had nearly 5 inches of snow. With the Midwest and East getting the biggest Arctic outbreak since 96. I think its turing around. In 20 years we will look back in say what where we thinking. 2006 turnes out to be 6th.

I forecast 8th for 2007.
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#4 Postby cpdaman » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:54 pm

matt what does this have to do with a specific thread concerning lake effect in upstate newyork


the lake effect guns have been going all out around water town yesterday through now

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 11&loop=no

so there has been between 1 to 1 and a half inches of liquid equivilant precip with temperatures around 15 degrees give or take for the last day which seems like a nice 25:1 ratio

so 25 to 36 or so inches with isolated 40 inches totals as of noon today

will keep updated
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#5 Postby cpdaman » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:06 pm

1.5 to 2 inches of liquid precip at ratiio of 25:1

means 37 to 50 inches i.e 3 to 4 feet of snow and the main band seems to have moved just south of the areas that were hit hardest

isolated totals of 60 inches are quite possible
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#6 Postby nystate » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:07 pm

Saw on the Watertown news website just now that earlier today all driving was banned in Jefferson and Lewis counties except in the case of emergencies. Conditions were so bad that the only major interstate in the area was closed and people were advised to ditch their cars on the side of the road and hitch a ride home with police and other emergency personell.
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#7 Postby donsutherland1 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:25 am

Interstate 81 Overpasses: Watertown, NY:
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A before and after photo in Watertown, NY (2/4 and 2/5):
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#8 Postby CajunMama » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:41 am

Great pics Don! Must have been unbelievable and exciting to have been a blizzard like that.
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#9 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:47 am

WOW!!!! Can you say even worse than "white-out? Call me a wimp if you want, but I could not handle that type of weather, even once in a while!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#10 Postby nystate » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:39 pm

Watertown/Jefferson County still have LES Warnings up...Watertown has received 28 inches so far and NWS is calling for the potential of 1-2 more feet tonight.

Also, check out these storm reports from NWS-

6 HOUR SNOWFALL (INCHES)
MEXICO...........26

STORM TOTAL AS OF MIDDAY 2/6 (INCHES)
MEXICO..........57.0
OSWEGO.........43.6

I'm not going to lie, I miss it!

Also, great pics up above!
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#11 Postby donsutherland1 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:44 pm

Latest NWS forecast covering the period from late this afternoon through tomorrow for Pulaski, NY:

Late Afternoon: Periods of snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 17. Wind chill values between -2 and 3. Breezy, with a west wind around 21 mph, with gusts as high as 32 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 17 to 23 inches possible.

Tonight: Periods of snow showers, mainly after 3am. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 6. Wind chill values between -4 and -11. West wind between 15 and 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Wednesday: Periods of snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 20. Wind chill values between -1 and -11. West wind between 13 and 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 13 to 19 inches possible.

Wednesday Night: Periods of snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 8. Wind chill values between -1 and -10. West wind around 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%.
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#12 Postby nystate » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:45 pm

Also just read per NWS that Scriba, NY (I guess that is in Oswego County) is reporting a 45 inch 24-hour snowfall total. Not as big as the unofficial 77" Montague 24 hour total, but still impressive nevertheless.
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#13 Postby Aquawind » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:52 pm

That sounds fun for about a week...then back to the beach. 8-)
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#14 Postby southerngale » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:41 am

LOL Paul... I was thinking something similar. I am dying to get some snow...I want to build a snowman, have a snowball fight, make snow angels, etc. :cheesy:
But I quite like being able to go outside without spending 15 minutes putting on layers so I don't turn into an instant icegirl when I walk outside.

But for a week or so... oh yeah!!


Great pictures, Don. Thanks for sharing!
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#15 Postby donsutherland1 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:41 am

It appears that the LES won't be as extreme over the next 24 hours as it has been in recent days in which Parish, Oswego, Redfield, etc. were hammered. The following 12 hours, at least if the WRF verifies, may see a pickup in the intensity of the LES.

24-hour qpf:
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36-hour qpf:
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Additional photo from the LES event (Pulaski, New York):
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#16 Postby Dave C » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:49 am

I heard on the news a couple days ago that storm chasers of the winter variety were filming this event, boy I would love to get that DVD! :eek:
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#17 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:01 pm

Dave C wrote:I heard on the news a couple days ago that storm chasers of the winter variety were filming this event, boy I would love to get that DVD! :eek:


Wouldn't it be just a white screen? j/k!!hehehehe Sorry, I couldn't resist! :D :D
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#18 Postby arlwx » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:56 pm

The easternuswx.com bulletin board has had a thread about some of the snowchasers, and another on the lake-effect snow that has some pictures in it.
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#19 Postby Jim Cantore » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Lake Effect Snow Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
830 PM EST WED FEB 7 2007

NYZ006-080930-
/O.CON.KBUF.LE.W.0007.000000T0000Z-070209T1200Z/
OSWEGO-
INCLUDING THE CITY OF...OSWEGO
830 PM EST WED FEB 7 2007

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM EST
FRIDAY...

A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM EST
FRIDAY.

INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO MEANDER ACROSS OSWEGO
COUNTY THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK.

A BAND OF INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS EXPECTED TO BECOME NEARLY
STATIONARY ACROSS NORTHERN OSWEGO COUNTY FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON
THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING...MAINLY NORTH OF A LINE FROM SCRIBA TO
PARISH. THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND THURSDAY NIGHT THE BAND WILL BEGIN
TO MEANDER...AND WILL LIKELY SINK SOUTH INTO CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN
OSWEGO COUNTY AT TIMES. SNOWFALL RATES WILL REACH 4 TO 5 INCHES
PER HOUR UNDER THE MOST INTENSE PORTION OF THE BAND.

ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT WILL REACH 2 TO 3 FEET IN THE
MOST PERSISTENT BANDS OVER THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE COUNTY.
ANOTHER FOOT IS POSSIBLE THURSDAY...AND ANOTHER FOOT THURSDAY
NIGHT ACROSS MUCH OF THE COUNTY AS THE BAND MEANDERS SOUTH. THIS
WILL BRING STORM TOTALS FOR THE WEEK TO 100 INCHES OR MORE IN
SOME LOCATIONS.

IN ADDITION TO THE EXTREME SNOWFALL AMOUNTS...STRONG WINDS WILL
CREATE NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE
EDGES OF THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS WHERE WINDS ARE TYPICALLY
STRONGER THAN UNDER THE CENTER OF THE BAND.

TRAVEL WILL BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT OR EVEN IMPOSSIBLE AT TIMES
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...ESPECIALLY ON NORTH SOUTH ROADS SUCH AS
INTERSTATE 81.

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Thats insane! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#20 Postby Hybrid ICE » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:54 am

Could you send some of that snow to South Central Pa. I think we have only had an inch of snow.
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