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#421 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:12 pm

aggiecutter wrote:wxman57, I wasn't talking about tomorrow or tomorrow night. goubdx was asking me a question about the long term pattern, not a specific instance such as tomorrow night. That is the reason I was referencing 1978. I was comparing this pattern long term to that one.


Oops, sorry. Must have missed that. Shouldn't have been trying to read while watching the end of "24". ;-)
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#422 Postby Mattie » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:12 pm

HA HA!! It's officially icing in Plano - $50.00 to the winner!!! ROFL
9:11 p.m. Sunday night!
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#423 Postby Mattie » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:12 pm

That would be McKinney!!!! sorry - recently moved and a 13 year habit is hard to break!
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#424 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:14 pm

wxman57 wrote:Everything is setting up pretty much as forecast, with a major ice storm possible for central and southeast Texas. The emphasis should be on CENTRAL Texas rather than the Houston to Beaumont area, though. The air won't be quite cold enough across Houston for any freezing rain until tomorrow night through Tuesday night. What you'll see tomorrow is the secondary surge of Arctic air reaching Houston in the morning after sunrise and the front moving off the entire TX coast. Temps will slowly fall, down to the upper 30s by mid afternoon, mid 30s by sunset, and possibly below freezing by late evening. That's when the threat of icing in the Houston area begins.

It may be difficult to get much ice south and east of downtown, as temperatures there may hover in the 33-35 degree range Monday night through Tuesday night. Best chances for significant accumulations will be north and northwest of a line from Victoria to Bush Intercontinental airport. Areas south of that line may see some icing on elevated surfaces, but it may not be cold enough for much ice on the ground, particularly the streets. Bridges could get icy, though, even on the south side of Houston. Doesn't take much ice on a bridge to cause big problems.

As far as damage, I think for the greater Houston area, the main threat will be for slick roadways and hazardous travel. North and west of central Houston is where the ice may be heavy enough to cause problems with trees and power lines. San Antonio, Austin, Waco, College Station -- that area -- will likely see the heaviest accumulations. For downtown Houston south through Clear Lake, Friendswood, Pearland, maybe a trace to 1/4" of ice, not necessarily on roadways except for bridges.
What do you think the accumulations could be like in N/NW Harris county?
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#425 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:16 pm

I think the "surge" has passed through Abilene. Their winds went from calm to 23 mph out of the north from 8 pm to 9 pm.
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#426 Postby double D » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:21 pm

Portastorm wrote:I think the "surge" has passed through Abilene. Their winds went from calm to 23 mph out of the north from 8 pm to 9 pm.


That weird, the winds are gusting to 20 mph in Fredericksburg and the temp has no gone to 33 with light rain falling. I think your right Portastorm, this air mass might be coming due south and then spread east over time.

For some reason the temperature that is on the NWS is always 3-5 degrees to warm in the winter, so ingore that temp.
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#427 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:25 pm

The dewpoint in Paris, which is about 90 miles NW of Texarkana, is down to the 30. Their dewpoint has been in the mid 30's all day, and their winds, which have been below 10mph for most of the day, have really picked up.

Paris / Cox Field
Last Update on Jan 14, 9:15 pm CST

Overcast

34°F
(1°C)
Humidity: 87 %
Wind Speed: NW 16 G 23 MPH
Barometer: 30.12"
Dewpoint: 30°F (-1°C)
Wind Chill: 24°F (-4°C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
More Local Wx: 2 Day History
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#428 Postby gboudx » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:35 pm

Temp here has fallen below 32 and the dewpoint continues to drop as well. Maybe we'll have some ice afterall.
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#429 Postby wall_cloud » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:35 pm

double D wrote:For some reason the temperature that is on the NWS is always 3-5 degrees to warm in the winter, so ingore that temp.


the observation from Fredericksburg is from an AWOS system. Many of these are property of the FAA (I think the DOT has a few as well). the NWS technicians are NOT responsible for the maintenence of the AWOS systems so their calibration is not guarunteed. I reccomend that you use with caution...however, the data is nice to have in a pinch.
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#430 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:40 pm

Heck I am still waiting for the first surge to hit me here in NW Corpus. Front just went thru Alice to the west of me an hour or so ago. Stuck in the 70's all day. :x
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#431 Postby double D » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:41 pm

wall_cloud wrote:
double D wrote:For some reason the temperature that is on the NWS is always 3-5 degrees to warm in the winter, so ingore that temp.


the observation from Fredericksburg is from an AWOS system. Many of these are property of the FAA (I think the DOT has a few as well). the NWS technicians are NOT responsible for the maintenence of the AWOS systems so their calibration is not guarunteed. I reccomend that you use with caution...however, the data is nice to have in a pinch.


Thanks wall_cloud for the information. I guess sometimes that's why some news channels have Fredericksburg as an unofficial reading.
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#432 Postby gboudx » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:43 pm

Okay, things are icing up outside my house now. Just went out for a quick touch-test.
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#433 Postby aggiecutter » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:44 pm

I just checked a few of the hourly observations in SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. All have a drop in dew point from the previous hour and wind speed has increased somewhat. This includes the cities of Mount Pleasant, Clarksville, and Paris. Also, Idabel Oklahoma.

However, the Omega Block continues to spare Austin:

Camp Mabry / Austin City
Last Update on Jan 14, 8:51 pm CST

Fog/Mist

80°F
(27°C)
Humidity: 89 %
Wind Speed: S 30 G 47 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1021.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (25°C)
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#434 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:49 pm

Conditions are beginning to go downhill in the Dallas area....

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
906 PM CST SUN JAN 14 2007

.UPDATE...
WILL KEEP THE CURRENT ICE STORM WARNING GOING OVERNIGHT AS ROAD
CONDITIONS WILL BE TREACHEROUS BY DAYBREAK WITHIN THE WARNING AREA.
WE ARE STARTING TO RECEIVE REPORTS OF ACCIDENTS...POWER LINES
DOWN...RAIN CHANGING TO FREEZING RAIN...LIGHT SNOW...AND ICE FORMING
OF ROADWAYS WHERE TEMPERATURES ARE BELOW FREEZING.
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#435 Postby ROCK » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:57 pm

I have heard 20 deaths so far with this event......stay off the roads if you can.....
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#436 Postby Tamora » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:59 pm

I just checked out side. We have been 30.4 for over an hour, precip has been falling. (9:58pm) My patio furniture has ice on it.
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#437 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:05 pm

aggiecutter wrote:I just checked a few of the hourly observations in SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. All have a drop in dew point from the previous hour and wind speed has increased somewhat. This includes the cities of Mount Pleasant, Clarksville, and Paris. Also, Idabel Oklahoma.

However, the Omega Block continues to spare Austin:

Camp Mabry / Austin City
Last Update on Jan 14, 8:51 pm CST

Fog/Mist

80°F
(27°C)
Humidity: 89 %
Wind Speed: S 30 G 47 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1021.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (25°C)


Wait a minute. That is about the same for CRP. Seriously.

Portastorm will finally get to kick the ball this time.

Portastorm 7, Lucy 7 (That's from the Christmas time cool spell) :lol:
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#438 Postby Shoshana » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:07 pm

aggiecutter wrote:I just checked a few of the hourly observations in SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. All have a drop in dew point from the previous hour and wind speed has increased somewhat. This includes the cities of Mount Pleasant, Clarksville, and Paris. Also, Idabel Oklahoma.

However, the Omega Block continues to spare Austin:

Camp Mabry / Austin City
Last Update on Jan 14, 8:51 pm CST

Fog/Mist

80°F
(27°C)
Humidity: 89 %
Wind Speed: S 30 G 47 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1021.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (25°C)


That can't be current Austin temps :) It hasn't gotten over 40F today.

Current from Weather Underground

Observed at: Austin, Texas
Elevation: 620 ft / 189 m
[Overcast]
37 °F / 3 °C
Overcast
Humidity: 86%
Dew Point: 33 °F / 1 °C
Wind: 8 mph / 13 km/h / 3.6 m/s from the NNW
Pressure: 30.20 in / 1022 hPa
Windchill: 31 °F / -1 °C
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#439 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:08 pm

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:
aggiecutter wrote:I just checked a few of the hourly observations in SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. All have a drop in dew point from the previous hour and wind speed has increased somewhat. This includes the cities of Mount Pleasant, Clarksville, and Paris. Also, Idabel Oklahoma.

However, the Omega Block continues to spare Austin:

Camp Mabry / Austin City
Last Update on Jan 14, 8:51 pm CST

Fog/Mist

80°F
(27°C)
Humidity: 89 %
Wind Speed: S 30 G 47 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1021.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (25°C)


Wait a minute. That is about the same for CRP. Seriously.

Portastorm will finally get to kick the ball this time.

Portastorm 7, Lucy 7 (That's from the Christmas time cool spell) :lol:


Geez aggiecutter ... the only storm that's going to hit Austin is a tropical storm with those obs!! :lol:

I dunno CC ... I haven't kicked that football yet. Still waiting.
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#440 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:08 pm

Shoshana wrote:
aggiecutter wrote:I just checked a few of the hourly observations in SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. All have a drop in dew point from the previous hour and wind speed has increased somewhat. This includes the cities of Mount Pleasant, Clarksville, and Paris. Also, Idabel Oklahoma.

However, the Omega Block continues to spare Austin:

Camp Mabry / Austin City
Last Update on Jan 14, 8:51 pm CST

Fog/Mist

80°F
(27°C)
Humidity: 89 %
Wind Speed: S 30 G 47 MPH
Barometer: 30.15" (1021.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 74°F (25°C)


That can't be current Austin temps :) It hasn't gotten over 40F today.

Observed at: Austin, Texas
Elevation: 620 ft / 189 m
[Overcast]
37 °F / 3 °C
Overcast
Humidity: 86%
Dew Point: 33 °F / 1 °C
Wind: 8 mph / 13 km/h / 3.6 m/s from the NNW
Pressure: 30.20 in / 1022 hPa
Windchill: 31 °F / -1 °C


It's the Aggie on here trying to take a jab at Portastorm.
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