BOC/GOM: Upper Level Divergence & Shear

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BOC/GOM: Upper Level Divergence & Shear

#1 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:22 pm

Upper level wind shear is quite low and decreasing in the extreme eastern Bay of Campeche. Very different than point north and west of there as of latest data.

Upper level divergence is positive over the central Gulf of Mexico and is slightly negative over the eastern and southern Bay of Campeche.

I still don't reule out a more northerly movement with this system in reponse to the trough to its north.
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#2 Postby Guest » Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:27 pm

Tom - do you have a link to where you get this information from? Are you looking at a map?

Sorry to be such a pest - but the BOC is always a place to watch for us GOM folks.

Patricia
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#3 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:44 pm

Patricia, they sure do. Here are a large scale and zoomed up area of the current upper level divergence and the same for the latest wind shear.....

I obviously have no control over the size of the images.

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#4 Postby Guest » Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:46 pm

Kewl Tom - thanks for putting those up - now I can see what you are talking about.... THANKS.
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#5 Postby GulfBreezer » Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:09 pm

Thanks......like ticka says.......us GOMers are watching very closely.
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#6 Postby Lindaloo » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:25 pm

Yes all us GOMer's keep a watchful eye on all storms. GBreezer you are right on the water like I am.
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#7 Postby Rainband » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:26 pm

Yeppers!!!! I have my binoculars ready!!! :wink:
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#8 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:27 pm

You're welcome Sandi and Patricia. Informative maps for sure for those of us from Florida to Texas. :)
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#9 Postby GulfBreezer » Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:29 pm

Lindaloo..........I know where you are at too! If I stand on one of those utility ladders in my backyard, I can see the GOM! It gets real interesting here as I am sure it does where you live too! I raised my home-owners deductible this year so what does Murphy's Law tell ya?? :roll:
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#10 Postby Lindaloo » Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:43 pm

LOL GBreezer. I guess it really does not matter about raising the deductible for wind and hail. Insurance companies have that 2% clause in there somewhere.

My homeowner's insurance is now at 1500 a year!! If you are right on the beaches, I can just imagine what you are paying. I am two streets over from the Gulf.
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#11 Postby Guest » Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:03 pm

Can I make you cry - my homeowner's insurance went from $1600 to $2700 a year. Thanks to all the mold claims here in the Houston area from tropical storm Allision. I dropped my flood insurance - not in a flood plane but then we will probably have the 100 year flood out here and I'll regret it.

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#12 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:07 pm

ticka1 wrote:Can I make you cry - my homeowner's insurance went from $1600 to $2700 a year. Thanks to all the mold claims here in the Houston area from tropical storm Allision. I dropped my flood insurance - not in a flood plane but then we will probably have the 100 year flood out here and I'll regret it.

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Wow Patricia!!! My homeowners went from 1100 to 1800 this year and I was complaining!!! Maybe you need a different carrier!!! BTW, I was one of those mold claims too. What really irks me about the raising of the rates is that I did not say come out and fix my house. I said "I may have a mold problem. Please send someone out to investigate. They did and it was determined we did have a problem and next thing I know we have people in monkey suits all over and 2 rooms unusable with one wrapped in plastic with an "ET" tunnel going into it. Yet they said it was ok for us to be there!!

I will NEVER drop my flood insurance. We already had to use it this past year as you know and we are not in a flood plain either. Plain and simple the Houston area is too flat with too many bayous and creeks to believe you will never get flooded, no matter where you live. You are somewhat in a good situation since your house is not a slab on grade like mine, but raised off the ground(isn't it?)
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#13 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:47 pm

The southern portion of the wind shear in the north Bay of Campeche/southern Gulf of Mexico is "eroding" a bit. With all things considered, it didn't look like that would take place (so soon).

The convection developing over this lower wind shear area and very warm sea surface temperatures are two things going for this low pressure system.

As expected central Florida is having an overcast day with a lot of rain, as well as some thunderstorms.
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#14 Postby Lindaloo » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:46 pm

Well I hope you are not with State Farm or Allstate Patricia! They no longer cover mold.

I am not going to complain anymore after reading about your high rates. But if mine goes up anymore I may have to consider moving to the country.
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#15 Postby ColdFront77 » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:38 pm

Upper level wind shear has been decreasing more so in the last several hours over the western
and central Gulf of Mexico.

Upper level divergence is positive over much of the same area.

As we know, these two factors do not inhibit tropical development, they increase the changes of
tropical development.
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#16 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:46 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:Upper level wind shear has been decreasing more so in the last several hours over the western
and central Gulf of Mexico.

Upper level divergence is positive over much of the same area.

As we know, these two factors do not inhibit tropical development, they increase the changes of
tropical development.
Just curious IF this sytem gets it's act together..it would move where??? Don't say towards florida!!!!! :(
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#17 Postby Guest » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:50 pm

TOWARDS FLORIDA. Sorry guys - but looks like BIG HIGH PRESSURE is sitting over Texas and its not going anywhere soon. Unforunately with tropic moisture comes flooding. Stay safe and be prepared for the worst?

Is it an INVEST ? Any Dvorak #'s on it yet?

Patricia
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#18 Postby Rainband » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:54 pm

ticka1 wrote:TOWARDS FLORIDA. Sorry guys - but looks like BIG HIGH PRESSURE is sitting over Texas and its not going anywhere soon. Unforunately with tropic moisture comes flooding. Stay safe and be prepared for the worst?

Is it an INVEST ? Any Dvorak #'s on it yet?

Patricia
It is an investigation..don't know about the numbers..Ticka you can have it..a system for us now IMHO would be Catastrophic :o
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#19 Postby BEER980 » Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:08 pm

Yep I agree we don't need any more rain. My centipede grass is over a foot high. I might be able to mow it if it would stop raining long enough. I ran into lots of street flooding this afternoon on my delivery route and we are under the flood watch as well.
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