Ex invest 91L trying to make a comeback?

[CrazyC83]

Looks like Florence delivered a baby?

[Zardoz]

This loop shows it breaking free of Flo:

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _ls_0.html

[CrazyC83]

Would it retain the 91L designation or take 93L?

[HURAKAN]

Looks like Florence delivered a baby?

If cyclones could procreate like a starfish, then with Florence you could have once again the same numbers as in 2005!!!

[Thunder44]

This loop shows it breaking free of Flo:

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _ls_0.html

There is a ULL coming down towards it though. Probably little chance of development.

[cycloneye]

NONAME,I changed the title of the thread to avoid any confusion for the members who may come for the first time today and see the TD7 title.

[Pebbles]

Hummm, think this is time to really debate if that's part of Flo's circulation or an entity unto itself. Can't really discuss if it's trying to comeback if there is no agreement on that.

[Zardoz]

Nice view of it here (along with everything else...)

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _ls_0.html

Is it part of Flo? Or not? Tough call at the moment...

[Thunder44]

Tropical Weather Outlook

Statement as of 5:30 PM EDT on September 8, 2006


For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Florence...located about 645 miles south-southeast of Bermuda.

A small area of low pressure along a tropical wave is located about
1050 miles east-northeast of the Lesser Antilles and about 850
miles east-southeast of Tropical Storm Florence. This system is
producing disorganized showers. Due to strong upper-level
winds...further development of this system...if any...should be
slow to occur.
Elsewhere...tropical storm formation is not expected through
Saturday.
$$
Forecaster Knabb/landsea

[storms in NC]

It does look like it has broken away and not moving that much. Maybe they have wrong storm that will be a hurricane.LOL No this one I don't think would do any thing cause TSF has taken the engery from the water.

[WindRunner]

Would it retain the 91L designation or take 93L?

It would almost certainly take 93L, for two reasons that I see.
1) Invests are informal labels and therefore require no need for precision and conitnuity such as a regenerating classified system requires.
2) Same situation with TD10/12 last year - yes, probably some of the energy (if not all) from 91L went into this, but it could also have been enhanced or even completely created by Florence's circulation or the convection belonging to her.

And now that I think of it, they probably wouldn't want to confuse people (even though invests aren't meant for public use, it's probably somewhat of a consideration) by resurrecting an invest - I don't think I've ever seen that before.

[Hyperstorm]

I think these are the remnants of what was 91L. I've tracked the system for the past few days and the system has made quite a comeback now that Florence has moved further away from it. In fact, it seems this system is trying to develop. We see what appears to be a low level circulation developing and deep convection tenaciously trying to follow it, despite very unfavorable northerly winds aloft.

Now, the GFS is forecasting the northerly winds to subside and become more easterly as Florence nears Bermuda by Sunday. If we see that, we could very well have a developing tropical cyclone by early next week. A relaxation of upper winds will cause the wrap. We'll see.

[Zardoz]

...In fact, it seems this system is trying to develop. We see what appears to be a low level circulation developing and deep convection tenaciously trying to follow it...

Yep:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-vis.html

[hurricanetrack]

Yes- this does look interesting. An increase in convection is obvious- now we will have to wait and see if TSF (I like that moniker) can get out of the way and allow this to develop. It was not too long ago that most models made a big deal out of this thing. You never know!

[Stormavoider]

You can see the LLC on the NNE edge of the building convection. It seems to be the missing piece of the Flo puzzle.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-avn.html

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Looks like a Nice LLC has formed on the north side of the convection...Looks close to td to me.

[SouthFloridawx]

Placed in 93L

[Epsilon_Fan]

yeah, it seems like Flo is dominating this system right now although I do see a LLC near the western edge of the convection. Maybe if it sneaks south of Flo's circulation something may happen

[Stormavoider]

yeah, it seems like Flo is dominating this system right now although I do see a LLC near the western edge of the convection. Maybe if it sneaks south of Flo's circulation something may happen

The LLC is clearly on the northern edge.

[Pebbles]

Just wanted to say that was a fantastic post SouthFloridawx. Will definately see how it pans out.
Always enjoy reading well thought out and explaned thoughts and grapics are a bonus!

Edit:

[b]A TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 47W S OF 17N MOVING W NEAR 10 KT.
8 PM discussion.

CHACHING nice catch on this guys!!!