Sunnyday....I agree. That brings me to something I forgot to rant on after Katrina last year. For a week or two after that storm, if you wanted gas in this area, you had to sit in line for hours and were lucky if the pumps weren't dry before it was finally your turn. This went on for days until most locations put a $20-50 limit on gas purchases.
There would never have been a gas shortage (at least to that extent) if people would have stayed calm and not topped off there tanks every time they got to 3/4 tank. Pure mass hysteria. What really chapped me was the people pulling 200+ gallon tanks up to the pump with no respect whatsoever for the people behind them. There should be law against idiots like that.
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Which brings us to the salient point that if more people would adequetly prepare BEFORE hurricane season there wouldn't be so much of a mad rush at the last minute. Maybe it's because I live up North in a rural area but many up here have months worth of food, fuel, heating supplies (ie. wood) put away before winter comes because we expect the blizzards, ice storms, ect. The people as a whole look at the government as a massive pig with multiple teats for them to suckle on. Each and every able bodied adult is responsible to prepare for themselves and their familes and if all did what they could there would be much less of a burden on government resources. However, I think many of you in hurricane alley no longer have the impression that Fema is waiting around the corner on a white stallion to charge to the rescue. 
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Maybe this thread should be called 'much ado about a little something'....we are getting tropical storm gusts now and it appears new bands are forming to our south....in other words, we really are experiencing a tropical storm....
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... 1&loop=yes
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... 1&loop=yes
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I think the main impact from Ernesto will be after landfall as the remnants interact with the front and that strong upper level jet to bring flooding rains from the Carolinas up to PA and possibly even further north than that. Here in SE VA im expecting 8-12 inches of rain late thursday thru friday afternoon..thats my forecast NOT an official one. My confidence in my forecast is high.
I think the main impact from Ernesto will be after landfall as the remnants interact with the front and that strong upper level jet to bring flooding rains from the Carolinas up to PA and possibly even further north than that. Here in SE VA im expecting 8-12 inches of rain late thursday thru friday afternoon..thats my forecast NOT an official one. My confidence in my forecast is high.
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Texas SpeedDiva wrote:DelrayMorris wrote:Dean4Storms wrote:Sorry for the smack of reality, but that very attitude of it won't happen too me is what caused alot of Katrina victims. Better safe than sorry!
I just want to be fair here, since everyone seems to be taking this idea and running with it today. Most of the victims of Hurricane Katrina were people who COULD NOT prepare for the storm. They were the poorest and most vulnerable among us and were not able to get themselves out of danger.
I'm not saying every single one of them was, but I'm becoming frustrated by what CNN and the rest of the media has been saying all, while re-writing history. Most of those people didn't die or get stranded because they were stupid and didn't prepare. They died because they were vulnerable (whether from poverty, illness, age, or whatever) and couldn't prepare.
Are these the same people who today were complaining that Texas and Houston has not showed them any Southern hospitality, kindness or compassion?
No, I was talking about people who DIED, not someone who showed up on television today.
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AL Chili Pepper wrote:Sunnyday....
. What really chapped me was the people pulling 200+ gallon tanks up to the pump with no respect whatsoever for the people behind them. There should be law against idiots like that.
Idiots you say? These are the people who illegally and inmorally sell that gas for 10 bucks a gallon after the power is knocked out to the gas stations..Talk about -removed- for a big storm..these worms are kings of that
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I understand that. I'm not saying it's a hard and fast rule, however, we all know
that there are usually a large number of those who probably DON'T need to fill 20 gas cans!quote]
Unless rationing is in effect, it's a free market. They can buy all they want, regardless of " " assessments of their needs. If someone doesn't want to be in these dog-fights at the pumps (or grocery store), they need to slowly build a supply as the season gets close. You can easily and safely store a good amount and rotate it into your cars and replace it with fresh gas a container at a time. I was in those pump lines after Charley and said "never again".
I understand that. I'm not saying it's a hard and fast rule, however, we all know
that there are usually a large number of those who probably DON'T need to fill 20 gas cans!quote]
Unless rationing is in effect, it's a free market. They can buy all they want, regardless of "
" assessments of their needs. If someone doesn't want to be in these dog-fights at the pumps (or grocery store), they need to slowly build a supply as the season gets close. You can easily and safely store a good amount and rotate it into your cars and replace it with fresh gas a container at a time. I was in those pump lines after Charley and said "never again".
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Regarding large gas purchases: Something to consider is that many people down in Florida lost power in Wilma for a week or more. Running a generator takes about 5 gallons a day for moderate use. After Wilma was when you saw LONG LONG lines for gas. I think filling up 5 containers for a total of 25 gallons was prudent given the experience of Wilma. Not to mention that MANY people are new generator owners and do not have the experience to judge how much gas is enough.
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Well... Ernesto wasn't much. It is a windy day down here though... not typical to say the least. I don't think I would blame people for taking full precautions... there isn't anyone alive who could have told you with certainty that this storm would end up being super lame. so... oh well. It is strange when you have a storm headed for you to be a little disappointed that it wasn't much.. but better than the alternative I say...
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Good morning, all.
Ernesto was a non-event here in northeast Dade. I stepped outside periodically during the night and I don't think we ever had over maybe 15 knots sustained, 20 knot gusts.
Only leaf and twig debris, no big branches down, let alone any trees.
No power outages of any sustained length (some transients).
It's still nice and breezy, with low clouds whipping by out of the south. I expect that'll continue most of the day as we're in the southeastern inflow channel.
I'm glad it didn't turn out much worse, although it would have been fun to at least have a few good strong gusts (you know ... just enough to lend a little excitement without really doing any damage.)
Jan
Ernesto was a non-event here in northeast Dade. I stepped outside periodically during the night and I don't think we ever had over maybe 15 knots sustained, 20 knot gusts.
Only leaf and twig debris, no big branches down, let alone any trees.
No power outages of any sustained length (some transients).
It's still nice and breezy, with low clouds whipping by out of the south. I expect that'll continue most of the day as we're in the southeastern inflow channel.
I'm glad it didn't turn out much worse, although it would have been fun to at least have a few good strong gusts (you know ... just enough to lend a little excitement without really doing any damage.)
Jan
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