I feel sad and upset

[Stephanie]

Will, no one has said that there won't be any hurricanes. This is one thing that you're going to have to become a little more patient with.

[28_Storms]

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!

No offense Will but the above quote made me sad and upset last year. There are plenty of storms elsewhere to track. We need a break this year.

[Steve]

>>.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

Was at the time. Size helped the surge remain commensurate with a Cat 5.

>>MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

Check, check, check, check (but for different reasons)

>>THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

X (except for the MS Coast)

>>HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

Partial check

>>AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

X

>>POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

Check, partial check, CHECK

>>THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.

X, X, Check, X

>>AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

Check

Yeah, it was so surreal. Life was moving in slow motion leading up to landfall as Katrina sapped warmth from the Loop Current and reached insane levels.

Steve

[wxman57]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity in the Atlantic Basin.

[skysummit]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity inthe Atlantic Basin.

Boooyahh! Perfect reply!

[Lindaloo]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity in the Atlantic Basin.

I was just trying to explain will, not others.

[LarryWx]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think thnik that the excitemen for somet comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity inthe Atlantic Basin.

As usual, I feel that wxman57, one of the best posters imho, is 100% spot on. I'm convinced that a good part of the enjoyment/excitement for certain frustrated/sad posters here is that there is a risk of someone being hit pretty close to home (including the U.S.). I feel that Pacific storms just don't provide enough of that thrill for those people. If this weren't true, I think that their frustration/sadness wouldn't be so bad. To some extent, this seems to be human nature and, therefore, I won't exclude myself from feeling this way at times. That being said, I'm not saying that I believe that most want to be hit themselves, especially after last year's terrible season.

[tgenius]

Everyone who feels sad or disappointed is ABSOLUTELY a Camp "B" Person.

[ConvergenceZone]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity in the Atlantic Basin.

I responded to this in a previous post. It's not as exciting to track a typhoon in the west pacific, because it just doesn' generate enough posts and excitement on this board to make it fun and interesting. Alot of the enjoyment I get comes from the RUSH of reading the opinions of others and the frantic paced interactions on a developing storm that's in the Atlantic or Carib or Gulf....To me it's just not as fun because it's so far away. I love tracking fish storms, because even though they will fish, they still generate enough excitement on this board to keep me interested...

For example, I love severe weather and yet you won't see me tracking severe weather and thundestorms across the continent of Japan, but I love tracking it across the USA. It's the same concept.

It's just more enjoyable when it's closer to home(whether the hurricanes fish or not).

[LarryWx]

Everyone who feels sad or disappointed is ABSOLUTELY a Camp "B" Person.

I think that those people who try to get others to feel sorry for themselves because they are sad about the lack of potentially devastating Atlantic storms is so silly it is laughable. There have been many times in the past when I was bored due to the lack of Atlantic storms. So, I can understand the rush one gets from these storms and the small risk that your area can be hit. (It just so happens that I'm not currently bored with the lack of storms right now as I've been having a lot of fun following what I've felt is a developing El Nino and its negating effects on storms in stark contrast to last year's incredible and very tiring season.) Would I ever expect others to feel sorry for me if i were bored right now? That would be insane imho! I've never once made a post actually COMPLAINING about the lack of activity.

My prediction, first posted in June at another BB, remains at 9/4/2, which is only a little below average for NS and is actually near average for MH.
Also, I'm guessing there will be two more U.S. Gulf coast landfalls, including one hurricane, and possibly one east coast hurricane landfall (above FL). I expect zero FL EAST coast landfalls this season due to the developing El Nino. My predictions do still allow for the chance for a FL Gulf coast landfall or two, however.

[rainstorm]

dont most meteorologists get in the field because they get "excited" over extreme weather. lets ask ourselves a question. did any of us become interested in the weather because we experienced a pleasant sunny day? doubtful. lets cut will some slack here, he doesnt control the weather no more than any of us do. this season will either feature cane hits to the united states, or it wont, and what any of us think or wants means nothing.

to another point, i think practically all of us get more interested in a cat4 headed toward us landfall than a china landfall. nothing wrong with that at all

[gatorcane]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity in the Atlantic Basin.

Yes I totally agree with you WxMan, perfectly said.

[rainstorm]

i think i can answer what wxman has said. lets say you are a football fan. would you care more about the NFL, or the canadian football?

[WeatherWiseGuy]

Both the storm-haters and storm-lovers have made excellent points.
The thing we all have in common here is we are fascinated by hurricanes
and probably weather in general. It's good that we all feel and think
differently, otherwise it would be a very boring world indeed. The key
is to be tolerant of those differences even if they annoy you.

[Regit]

i think i can answer what wxman has said. lets say you are a football fan. would you care more about the NFL, or the canadian football?

Great analogy. People are always more interested in what is close to them, and CERTAINLY more interested in what could affect them.

Additionally, WPAC storms can only be followed on a few web pages. Atlantic storms are the topic of watercooler discussion, the main news story of the day, and are just all around more interesting for Americans.

[Big_Steve]

I'd like to know why my original post to Will's post about him being depressed because no major storms have formed this hurricane season was deleted from this board.

My comments were right on and I'm sure others who would have been given the opportunity to read them would probably have agreed with me; especially those who are from my region and went through Katrina last year. Was someone on this board concerned that I'd make this Will mad?


Big Steve
Biloxi, Mississippi
08/20/06

[JonathanBelles]

will, ja might wanna look to ioki or the southwest caribbean!

[wxmann_91]

I do not believe will is suggesting that he wants a hurricane to hit anywhere. He has a passion for them and wants to track them like everyone else.

If that were actually true (not just of Will, but many others here), then why would tracking a typhoon in the west Pacific (or east Pac / south Pac) not be as exciting to them? I think that the excitement for some comes from the threat that hurricanes pose to land (U.S., Caribbean), not just the fact that they've developed "somewhere". Otherwise, those who are "sad" would not be discussing the lack of activity in the Atlantic Basin.

BINGO

I was going to start a new thread explaining this but I felt it would anger the mods and start another catfight.

[wxmann_91]

Additionally, WPAC storms can only be followed on a few web pages. Atlantic storms are the topic of watercooler discussion, the main news story of the day, and are just all around more interesting for Americans.

WPAC storms can be found on JTWC, JMA, SSD, NRL, and many other sites. That's not the reason. If it was last year, when the coverage for WPAC storms wasn't too plentiful, and the Atlantic brew many more beautiful storms than the WPAC, I would understand. But what about this year? Technology has made a great leap and the SSD page has improved 10-fold with floaters available throughout the world, and images are suddenly now in one-hour increments, improved from the erratic and random increments from previous years.

[CharleySurvivor]

I am' THRILLED beyond WORDS' of the season so far this year.

I get to enjoy my weekends for once! -the past 2 years were awful.

So far.....no TV watching wondering where a cane is going, who is in it's path or ourselves getting ready for one.

No SAD person here!