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wxwatcher91's forecast for Chris

#1 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:44 pm

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I know that a lot of you will jump on my more northerly track and tear it to pieces... but oh well. I think that once the cold front moves through the eastern US, (by Friday) the ridge will begin to weaken a bit. This coupled with the fact that Chris will likely strengthen into a hurricane, I think will allow Chris to recurve a bit further northward than currently forecasted... by everyone. I went actually a bit more conservative with the northerly track. I think that Chris could actually make landfall as far north as SC. As Sean posted earlier the historical tracks of storms passing near Chris, NC might actually want to pay attention to him, however with the strong ridge in place right now, I doubt that Chris could make it THAT far north.
Strength-wise, Chris has a lot of potential. He will be moving over waters that support category five intensity with favorable upper air conditions at least in the short term. Dry air out ahead of Chris may effect the western extent of his convection, but will likely not significantly affect the storm. Northerly shear that is currently affecting Chris will abate somewhat through Friday. This will allow Chris to strengthen steadily to a category 1 hurricane sometime tomorrow and possibly a category two by Friday night. Shear will begin to increase Saturday as the storm system to the north begins to affect Chris a bit. Chris will still be able to strengthen, however any run-away intensification due to high SSTs will be kept in check. I expect Chris to become a strong category 2 hurricane around 105mph to 110mph and to make landfall on the Florida peninsula at that intensity. Chris will weaken after landfall. He may have a window for reintensification if he makes it into the GOM. If that occurs, there would be a second landfall on the Florida panhandle at category 1 intensity.


12.....Tonight 8pm EDT........70mph
24.....Thursday 8am............75
36.....8pm..........................80
48.....Friday 8am................90
60.....8pm..........................100
72.....Saturday 8am............105
84.....8pm..........................110
96.....Sunday 8am..............110
108...8pm..........................105
120...Monday 8am..............80[/img]
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#2 Postby skysummit » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:46 pm

You gotta graphic?
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#3 Postby stormie_skies » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:49 pm

Is there any reason at all to believe that this cold front will reach far enough south to break the ridge? I can't remember seeing cold fronts down here during the first week of August... that seems a bit silly to me...

Being a hurricane means NOTHING when the upper air patterns are strong enough. If the poleward pull was as strong as you imply, Caribbean canes would never make it into the Gulf - they would all head north. And we all know that isn't anywhere near true....
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#4 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:49 pm

yes, sorry, I just added it
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#5 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:50 pm

Interesting thoughts, but I don't think they will happen. I would be interested in a more detailed track from you if that is possible.

I think your reasoning is somewhat sound, but you are missing the fact that the second ridge that is supposed to keep Chris on a more WNW to W course is expected to build in to the current ridges west and this should continue the track into the GOM.
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#6 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:51 pm

Interesting track, you send Chris (me) to Disney World (Where I work). I have family coming next week so I hope it does not pan out. :wink:
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#7 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:55 pm

stormie skies, Im not saying the front will reach that far south, but it will reach far enough south to weaken the ridge, and allow Chris to at least move north of the Keys. Im not implying that it will fully recurve and affect NC or the NE or anything like that.
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#8 Postby stormie_skies » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:57 pm

Okay. But even if the ridge was temporarily weakened and Chris scooted a bit north of where he is ... isn't the ridge forecast to build back strongly across the Gulf .... and certainly past the panhandle?
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#9 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:57 pm

cjrciadt wrote:Interesting track, you send Chris (me) to Disney World (Where I work). I have family coming next week so I hope it does not pan out. :wink:


Don't worry. I forecasted it, which means you'll be safer than anyone :lol:
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#10 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:12 pm

stormie_skies wrote:Okay. But even if the ridge was temporarily weakened and Chris scooted a bit north of where he is ... isn't the ridge forecast to build back strongly across the Gulf .... and certainly past the panhandle?


Perhaps. But I don't think it will hit any further west than the Louisiana Delta.

I realize the immense contraversy over my forecast track and I thank all of you who commented for not just saying "no" lol. Any thoughts on my intensity forecast? It appears that my forecast may be wrong as soon as 8pm tonight lol, as it seems Chris is not doing as well as expected by many
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#11 Postby westmoon » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:21 pm

Your 8PM might not be right on but I still think your 8AM tomorrow will be close. I just hope your wrong! Can't say i'm in the mood to move the BBQ back inside the house.
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#12 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:27 pm

Nice idea, but this track is unlikely.
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Re: wxwatcher91's forecast for Chris

#13 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:32 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


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I know that a lot of you will jump on my more northerly track and tear it to pieces... but oh well. I think that once the cold front moves through the eastern US, (by Friday) the ridge will begin to weaken a bit. This coupled with the fact that Chris will likely strengthen into a hurricane, I think will allow Chris to recurve a bit further northward than currently forecasted... by everyone. I went actually a bit more conservative with the northerly track. I think that Chris could actually make landfall as far north as SC. As Sean posted earlier the historical tracks of storms passing near Chris, NC might actually want to pay attention to him, however with the strong ridge in place right now, I doubt that Chris could make it THAT far north.
Strength-wise, Chris has a lot of potential. He will be moving over waters that support category five intensity with favorable upper air conditions at least in the short term. Dry air out ahead of Chris may effect the western extent of his convection, but will likely not significantly affect the storm. Northerly shear that is currently affecting Chris will abate somewhat through Friday. This will allow Chris to strengthen steadily to a category 1 hurricane sometime tomorrow and possibly a category two by Friday night. Shear will begin to increase Saturday as the storm system to the north begins to affect Chris a bit. Chris will still be able to strengthen, however any run-away intensification due to high SSTs will be kept in check. I expect Chris to become a strong category 2 hurricane around 105mph to 110mph and to make landfall on the Florida peninsula at that intensity. Chris will weaken after landfall. He may have a window for reintensification if he makes it into the GOM. If that occurs, there would be a second landfall on the Florida panhandle at category 1 intensity.


12.....Tonight 8pm EDT........70mph
24.....Thursday 8am............75
36.....8pm..........................80
48.....Friday 8am................90
60.....8pm..........................100
72.....Saturday 8am............105
84.....8pm..........................110
96.....Sunday 8am..............110
108...8pm..........................105
120...Monday 8am..............80[/img]


nothing wrong with that forecast :). I don't see why anyone would tear you apart for this forecast, it's pretty reasonable and you explained why you believe what you do :). We'll just have to wait and see. I still think it will go more west, but that's just my opinion.
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#14 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:33 pm

can some one send me that map plain?
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#15 Postby raindrops68 » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:35 pm

Good job wxwatcher91 :D
You know its anyone's guess really at this point. Chris will do what he is gonna do and we all know forcasts are not set in stone.
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#16 Postby N2DaTropics » Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:37 pm

vbhoutex wrote:Interesting thoughts, but I don't think they will happen. I would be interested in a more detailed track from you if that is possible.

I think your reasoning is somewhat sound, but you are missing the fact that the second ridge that is supposed to keep Chris on a more WNW to W course is expected to build in to the current ridges west and this should continue the track into the GOM.



I agree with Vb to a certain degree...I think your reasoning is sound and may well verify, but I don't think Chris will gain that much latitude, however. I don't think Chris will ever make it as far west as Texas...I think he'll end up somewhere from Lake Charles to the Mouth of the Mississippi River...right now, it's all a crap shoot...people are putting alot of stock into the ridging that is forecast to be in place...no one knows how weak or how strong the ridging will be because we are still talking about almost a week before Chris would make a GOM landfall...right now, if I lived in the Keys or S. Fla I would certainly be in a highly vigilant frame of mind...
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#17 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:28 am

well so much for this forecast. because of this sudden weakening, my track forecast doesnt really work since the whole idea was that Chris was to recurve a bit more when the front moved past because of his strength.
Intensity-wise, did anyone think that he would weaken like this?

P.S. I just want to make it clear because of a thread that was made recently that I made my track forecast the way I did NOT to just contradict the NHC forecast
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#18 Postby beachbum_al » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:08 am

wxwatcher91 wrote:well so much for this forecast. because of this sudden weakening, my track forecast doesnt really work since the whole idea was that Chris was to recurve a bit more when the front moved past because of his strength.


Just wondering where you think it will go now if it does manage to make it out to the GOM?
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#19 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:16 am

I will come out with a forecast later today if it appears Chris will still be a threat.

Chris has the potential to regain strength. he is entering an area of even less shear. If he can regain some strength, Chris will be able to move north a bit and pass through the straits, or over southern Florida. If he remains in the weak state he is in, it is likely that he will pass over Cuba and then dissapate.
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