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#221 Postby Jim Cantore » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:27 am

vbhoutex wrote:And now let's discuss JB's forecasts and not JB himself please. This thread is about JB's forecasts, not the man himself or what we think of him.


Hence the title :wink:
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#222 Postby MSRobi911 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:17 am

Bring on the rain. We are so dry here, still -20+ inches. Pascagoula so far this month has gotten 1.24 inches of rain.......normal average rainfall for July 5.40 or something like that..................what grass we have left after the salt water killed most of it is dieing because of the lack of rain! Even though we had 70% chance of rain today, it drizzled a few times and about 11:30 it rained for about 5 minutes and that was it. We are still at 50% and 40% for the rest of the week, so we will see (that is because of the little disturbance down in the gulf) Channel 5 in Mobile WKRG said don't worry about it, if anything develops its just gonna go back into South Western Texas, but WLOX Channel 13 in Biloxi, Mike Reader, said we need to keep our eyes on this and see what happens.............two different opinions only 45 miles apart :)

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#223 Postby kjun » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:12 am

What is JB thinking about the GOM system and the Atlantic Wave this AM???
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#224 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:47 am

kjun wrote:What is JB thinking about the GOM system and the Atlantic Wave this AM???


For 19.95 a month you can find out...
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#225 Postby Hohwxny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:49 am

drezee wrote:
kjun wrote:What is JB thinking about the GOM system and the Atlantic Wave this AM???


For 19.95 a month you can find out...


Right! Why should only some people have to pay for it and then others come here and try to get the information for free?
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#226 Postby kjun » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:51 am

Sorry!!! I used to be a subscriber, but I had to weed it out of my budget after suffering much losses from hurricane Rita's storm surge last year. I am still interested in what he has to say nevertheless.
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#227 Postby Meso » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:56 am

Yeah, There is nothing wrong with giving a summary of what someone is saying on somewhere :/ .. Not everyone has credit cards to be able to pay for internet subscriptions.
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#228 Postby Hohwxny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:01 am

Meso wrote:Yeah, There is nothing wrong with giving a summary of what someone is saying on somewhere :/ .. Not everyone has credit cards to be able to pay for internet subscriptions.


I'm sorry...there is something wrong with one person having to pay for it, while others get the information for free.
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#229 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:04 am

Meso wrote:Yeah, There is nothing wrong with giving a summary of what someone is saying on somewhere :/ .. Not everyone has credit cards to be able to pay for internet subscriptions.


By who's definition? Let's ask Joe Bastardi himself or Accuweather or any judge in the United States...it is stealing...no more no less
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#230 Postby Meso » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:05 am

It's a brief summary it's not access to the site and all information...I'd say it's wrong to copy/paste entire sections.Not just give a few words of someones opinion,you pay for the site for access to many features, it's not like you are paying just for his thoughts.
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#231 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:07 am

Hohwxny wrote:
drezee wrote:
kjun wrote:What is JB thinking about the GOM system and the Atlantic Wave this AM???


For 19.95 a month you can find out...


Right! Why should only some people have to pay for it and then others come here and try to get the information for free?


Why should people have to pay for it at all? :D
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#232 Postby Steve » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:10 am

Dude. Unpierce your lip.

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#233 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:15 am

Meso wrote:It's a brief summary it's not access to the site and all information...I'd say it's wrong to copy/paste entire sections.Not just give a few words of someones opinion,you pay for the site for access to many features, it's not like you are paying just for his thoughts.


I am going to introduce you to a little thing we call intellectual property. Joe Bastardi and his column is the property of Accuweather and its subscribers only. Give me a law that states that summarizing it is legally not stealing. I can give you tons of laws that say it is...even summarizing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
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#234 Postby Hohwxny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:17 am

Thunder44 wrote:
Hohwxny wrote:
drezee wrote:
kjun wrote:What is JB thinking about the GOM system and the Atlantic Wave this AM???


For 19.95 a month you can find out...


Right! Why should only some people have to pay for it and then others come here and try to get the information for free?


Why should people have to pay for it at all? :D


Very true!!!

Now, I don't pay for his information, but I also don't read it here. I can understand that people need to make a living and that is how he makes his. I'm sure he would love to find out that 8,000 people are getting his discussion for free.
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#235 Postby Hohwxny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:17 am

drezee wrote:
Meso wrote:It's a brief summary it's not access to the site and all information...I'd say it's wrong to copy/paste entire sections.Not just give a few words of someones opinion,you pay for the site for access to many features, it's not like you are paying just for his thoughts.


I am going to introduce you to a little thing we call intellectual property. Joe Bastardi and his column is the property of Accuweather and its subscribers only. Give me a law that states that summarizing it is legally not stealing. I can give you tons of laws that say it is...even summarizing it.


I must ask...are you a lawyer? :lol:
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#236 Postby skufful » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:19 am

drezee wrote:
Meso wrote:It's a brief summary it's not access to the site and all information...I'd say it's wrong to copy/paste entire sections.Not just give a few words of someones opinion,you pay for the site for access to many features, it's not like you are paying just for his thoughts.


I am going to introduce you to a little thing we call intellectual property. Joe Bastardi and his column is the property of Accuweather and its subscribers only. Give me a law that states that summarizing it is legally not stealing. I can give you tons of laws that say it is...even summarizing it.


If that were the case, then no one would be able to discuss current events read in the newspaper. They are intellectual property also. I would be happy to read pne of ther laws that suggest you can't even summarize an article. You may be correct, however. I'm not a lawyer, thank God.
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#237 Postby drezee » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:26 am

skufful wrote:
drezee wrote:
Meso wrote:It's a brief summary it's not access to the site and all information...I'd say it's wrong to copy/paste entire sections.Not just give a few words of someones opinion,you pay for the site for access to many features, it's not like you are paying just for his thoughts.


I am going to introduce you to a little thing we call intellectual property. Joe Bastardi and his column is the property of Accuweather and its subscribers only. Give me a law that states that summarizing it is legally not stealing. I can give you tons of laws that say it is...even summarizing it.


If that were the case, then no one would be able to discuss current events read in the newspaper. They are intellectual property also. I would be happy to read pne of ther laws that suggest you can't even summarize an article. You may be correct, however. I'm not a lawyer, thank God.




That argument makes no sense...who owns the intellectual property of current events? NO ONE! It is in the public domain! The info that is posted on their site is not in the public domain.

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#238 Postby swimaster20 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:29 am

Ok, but don't jump on kjun for asking. It's not him who decided to post JB's summaries, it was EWG who decided to for those who can't afford it, so don't be quick to judge kjun.
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#239 Postby Hohwxny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:38 am

swimaster20 wrote:Ok, but don't jump on kjun for asking. It's not him who decided to post JB's summaries, it was EWG who decided to for those who can't afford it, so don't be quick to judge kjun.


No one is jumping on him...all we are doing is voicing our opinions.
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#240 Postby x-y-no » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:50 am

drezee wrote:
Meso wrote:Yeah, There is nothing wrong with giving a summary of what someone is saying on somewhere :/ .. Not everyone has credit cards to be able to pay for internet subscriptions.


By who's definition? Let's ask Joe Bastardi himself or Accuweather or any judge in the United States...it is stealing...no more no less


There's a well-established legal doctrine of "fair use." Providing a symopsis or even short quotes accompanied by commentary falls well within established legal practice.
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