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#321 Postby perk » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:53 am

I think the NHC did right by cancelling the recon for 98L, those missions cost a small fortune, and with no discernable center that money can be used to fund a more serious threat.
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#322 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:54 am

perk wrote:I think the NHC did right by cancelling the recon for 98L, those missions cost a small fortune, and with no discernable center that money can be used to fund a more serious threat.


That's right!!!
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#323 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:55 am

Besides the center is over land
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#324 Postby T-man » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:58 am

I agree, and I also think they won't go out for at least two days and only then if it maintains convection for the period, and develops a LLC...
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#325 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:59 am

Hurricane Floyd wrote:Besides the center is over land


What center?
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#326 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:02 am

Stormcenter wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:Besides the center is over land


What center?


There really is no center anymore. HPC analyizes a surface trough under those cluster of thunderstorms.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/sfc/90fwbg.gif
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#327 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:08 am

Stormcenter wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:Besides the center is over land


What center?


Good question, I thought i'd spotted one but I looped it and didnt get a spin. My bad :yayaya:
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#328 Postby Stormavoider » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:08 am

Stormavoider wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
Stormavoider wrote:My wild guess is 24.5N 94.5W moving NE. I'm not basing this on much other than the visible sat.


It looks more like a northward movement.


If it's centered any were near were I said, We should see a dramatic change from this buoy real soon.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42002
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#329 Postby Stormavoider » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:11 am

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#330 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:12 am

:uarrow: INTERESTING. POWERFUL T-STORMS!!! :uarrow:
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#331 Postby tailgater » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:14 am

Stormavoider wrote:
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HURAKAN wrote:
Stormavoider wrote:My wild guess is 24.5N 94.5W moving NE. I'm not basing this on much other than the visible sat.


It looks more like a northward movement.


If it's centered any were near were I said, We should see a dramatic change from this buoy real soon.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42002

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#332 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:15 am



Whoa winds sustained 40mph gusting 50mph! Pretty for a cluster of thunderstorms. :D
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#333 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:15 am

800
ABNT20 KNHC 241515
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT MON JUL 24 2006

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE AREA CENTERED JUST EAST OF LA PESCA MEXICO IS
MOVING NORTHWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY
OVER MUCH OF THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND BAY OF CAMPECHE HAS
INCREASED AND BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED...AND NOAA BUOYS IN
THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO HAVE RECORDED WIND GUSTS OF 40 TO
45 MPH THIS MORNING. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME A
LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD DEVELOP
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...IF THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER REMAINS
OFFSHORE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
TUESDAY.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART
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#334 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:19 am

So I guess they decided to revert their recon flight resoures to Hurricane Daniel in the Pacific. I guess we have enough surface obs in the GOM.
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#335 Postby wxman22 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:20 am

:eek: :eek: :eek:
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#336 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:23 am

well, the recon mission was supposed to be an invest, looking for a closed low etc, since they already know that there is a surface low there, then recon would of been a waste of time and money in their opinions I guess
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#337 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:24 am

cycloneye wrote:800
ABNT20 KNHC 241515
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT MON JUL 24 2006

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE AREA CENTERED JUST EAST OF LA PESCA MEXICO IS
MOVING NORTHWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY
OVER MUCH OF THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND BAY OF CAMPECHE HAS
INCREASED AND BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED...AND NOAA BUOYS IN
THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO HAVE RECORDED WIND GUSTS OF 40 TO
45 MPH THIS MORNING. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME A
LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD DEVELOP
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...IF THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER REMAINS
OFFSHORE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
TUESDAY.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART


Oh well so much for it being over land.
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#338 Postby dixiebreeze » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:24 am

Not "dead" yet:

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1130 AM EDT MON JUL 24 2006

CORRECTED WIND GUSTS

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE AREA CENTERED JUST EAST OF LA PESCA MEXICO IS
MOVING NORTHWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY
OVER MUCH OF THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND BAY OF CAMPECHE HAS
INCREASED AND BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED...AND NOAA BUOYS IN
THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO HAVE RECORDED WIND GUSTS OF 40 TO
50 MPH THIS MORNING. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME A
LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD DEVELOP
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...IF THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER REMAINS
OFFSHORE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
TUESDAY.

$$
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#339 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:24 am

So now the NHC is saying a depression could form soon. Interesting to say the least, let's see if the convection keeps up throughout the day.
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#340 Postby Hohwxny » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:27 am

Thunder44 wrote:So I guess they decided to revert their recon flight resoures to Hurricane Daniel in the Pacific. I guess we have enough surface obs in the GOM.


Yup, they are stationing the G-IV for possible flights into Daniel.
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