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#141 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:23 pm

I want someone a little more experienced to look at this set:

SXXX50 KNHC 202110
AF309 0502A BERYL HDOB 43 KNHC
2100. 4030N 07105W 01524 0078 143 033 146 130 033 01644 0000000000
2101 4029N 07106W 01524 0077 144 032 150 130 033 01643 0000000000
2101. 4028N 07108W 01521 0078 142 033 148 132 034 01642 0000000000
2102 4029N 07110W 01525 0078 141 036 148 132 038 01644 0000000000
2102. 4031N 07111W 01523 0078 145 038 150 132 038 01644 0000000000
2103 4032N 07109W 01527 0077 148 035 148 130 036 01646 0000000000
2103. 4032N 07107W 01524 0078 148 034 146 130 035 01643 0000000000
2104 4032N 07105W 01484 0078 148 033 148 132 034 01603 0000000000
2104. 4031N 07103W 01225 0068 150 033 158 148 033 01334 0000000000
2105 4030N 07104W 00967 0066 146 033 172 162 034 01060 0000000000
2105. 4029N 07106W 00806 0049 145 039 182 178 040 00882 0000000000
2106 4031N 07106W 00757 0045 149 040 186 180 040 00829 0000000000
2106. 4033N 07105W 00763 0046 151 038 188 170 038 00835 0000000000
2107 4033N 07104W 00763 0048 151 035 184 178 038 00838 0000000000
2107. 4032N 07103W 00753 0046 151 033 190 168 033 00826 0000000000
2108 4031N 07104W 00748 0045 145 034 188 176 035 00820 0000000000
2108. 4030N 07105W 00749 0044 145 036 188 178 036 00820 0000000000
2109 4029N 07107W 00801 0043 147 036 180 174 036 00871 0000000000
2109. 4028N 07108W 01055 0054 146 035 170 154 035 01142 0000000000
2110 4027N 07110W 01429 0067 142 033 152 134 034 01538 0000000000


What's with the pressure falls? Did they get caught in some sort of waterspout or something? The entire time they are going through this, their path looks like this (this set for the one on the left)

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Anybody have any ideas?
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#142 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:32 pm

Kyle,I am sure that a pro met will answer your question about this.It's weird that flight track.
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#143 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:41 pm

WindRunner wrote:SXXX50 KNHC 202110
AF309 0502A BERYL HDOB 43 KNHC
2100. 4030N 07105W 01524 0078 143 033 146 130 033 01644 0000000000
2101 4029N 07106W 01524 0077 144 032 150 130 033 01643 0000000000
2101. 4028N 07108W 01521 0078 142 033 148 132 034 01642 0000000000
2102 4029N 07110W 01525 0078 141 036 148 132 038 01644 0000000000
2102. 4031N 07111W 01523 0078 145 038 150 132 038 01644 0000000000
2103 4032N 07109W 01527 0077 148 035 148 130 036 01646 0000000000
2103. 4032N 07107W 01524 0078 148 034 146 130 035 01643 0000000000
2104 4032N 07105W 01484 0078 148 033 148 132 034 01603 0000000000
2104. 4031N 07103W 01225 0068 150 033 158 148 033 01334 0000000000
2105 4030N 07104W 00967 0066 146 033 172 162 034 01060 0000000000
2105. 4029N 07106W 00806 0049 145 039 182 178 040 00882 0000000000
2106 4031N 07106W 00757 0045 149 040 186 180 040 00829 0000000000
2106. 4033N 07105W 00763 0046 151 038 188 170 038 00835 0000000000
2107 4033N 07104W 00763 0048 151 035 184 178 038 00838 0000000000
2107. 4032N 07103W 00753 0046 151 033 190 168 033 00826 0000000000
2108 4031N 07104W 00748 0045 145 034 188 176 035 00820 0000000000
2108. 4030N 07105W 00749 0044 145 036 188 178 036 00820 0000000000
2109 4029N 07107W 00801 0043 147 036 180 174 036 00871 0000000000
2109. 4028N 07108W 01055 0054 146 035 170 154 035 01142 0000000000
2110 4027N 07110W 01429 0067 142 033 152 134 034 01538 0000000000


They descended to 925mb for a second and then came back up...it looks like they wanted to sample the convection over there at a lower flight level for greater accuracy. They flight path also looks like they were just trying to measure the winds in the one area of convection.
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#144 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:42 pm

Ok, that makes sense. It doesn't appear to be a particularly windy part of the convection, however. Still a little strange.
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#145 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:45 pm

WindRunner wrote:Ok, that makes sense. It doesn't appear to be a particularly windy part of the convection, however. Still a little strange.


Still, if you look on the radar it is the edge of the main band of rain/storms that is heading towards Cape Cod.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=box&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no
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#146 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:46 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 202143
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 20/21:32:30Z
B. 39 deg 31 min N
072 deg 11 min W
C. 850 mb 1426 m
D. 20 kt
E. 48 deg 059 nm
F. 134 deg 049 kt
G. 045 deg 041 nm
H. 1001 mb
I. 12 C/ 1522 m
J. 17 C/ 1523 m
K. 17 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 1234 / 8
O. 0.02 / 6 nm
P. AF309 0502A BERYL OB 22
MAX FL WIND 56 KT SE QUAD 19:42:50 Z




Pressure down one millibar.
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#147 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:47 pm

And note the 5C difference between the eye and the surroundings . . . still very warm-core, and maybe even (dare I say?) strengthening . . .
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#148 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:05 pm

Final thoughts on mission: Definately a NE movement now, calculated with VDMs at 11kts. There was a 56mph surface wind measured, which would almost support an upgrade back to 50kts, so I wouldn't expect anything below 45kts at 11pm.

I believe there is one more mission scheduled for Beryl, which is going to be tonight, with take off probably around 10pm EDT, but I'm not sure of the exact times of the mission (or if it will even be flown for that matter).
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#149 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:08 pm

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NOUS42 KNHC 201400
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT THU 20 JUL 2006
SUBJECT: TROPICAL STORM PLAN OF THE DAY (TSPOD)
VALID 21/1100Z TO 22/1100Z JUL 2006
TSPOD NUMBER.....06-051

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARKS: MISSION PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED ON TROPICAL
STORM BERYL THROUGH 21/1200Z WILL FLY AS PLANNED.
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#150 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:08 pm

I'd hold it at 45 for now.

That was a long mission!
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#151 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:11 pm

WindRunner wrote:Final thoughts on mission: Definately a NE movement now, calculated with VDMs at 11kts. There was a 56mph surface wind measured, which would almost support an upgrade back to 50kts, so I wouldn't expect anything below 45kts at 11pm.

I believe there is one more mission scheduled for Beryl, which is going to be tonight, with take off probably around 10pm EDT, but I'm not sure of the exact times of the mission (or if it will even be flown for that matter).


Kyle,I want to commend you for all the work that you haved done with the data and graphics.Keep that work during the rest of the season.I also have to say that SouthFloridawx has also done a terrific work with the graphics too.StormsAhead,good job also with the data.

NOUS42 KNHC 201400
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT THU 20 JUL 2006
SUBJECT: TROPICAL STORM PLAN OF THE DAY (TSPOD)
VALID 21/1100Z TO 22/1100Z JUL 2006
TSPOD NUMBER.....06-051

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARKS: MISSION PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED ON TROPICAL
STORM BERYL THROUGH 21/1200Z WILL FLY AS PLANNED.



Still is planned to depart unless a last minute decision to cancel comes.
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#152 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:09 pm

The plane just departed the base.This will be the last mission they will have for Beryl.
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#153 Postby WindRunner » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:17 pm

Have fun tonight, Storms and South! Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to be an interesting run. And South, if you need some satellite underlays, here's a couple AVNs to throw in: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/28/ ... erlays.kmz

You can just choose "Open" and it should load in GE.


Now to bed! 8-) :sleeping:
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#154 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:22 pm

WindRunner wrote:Have fun tonight, Storms and South! Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to be an interesting run. And South, if you need some satellite underlays, here's a couple AVNs to throw in: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/28/ ... erlays.kmz

You can just choose "Open" and it should load in GE.


Now to bed! 8-) :sleeping:


Thank you... does it auto update?
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#155 Postby StormsAhead » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:16 am

SXXX50 KNHC 210708
AF300 0602A BERYL HDOB 38 KNHC
0658. 4048N 06930W 01766 0008 221 058 144 144 059 01773 0000000000
0659 4047N 06929W 01770 0011 221 060 142 142 061 01780 0000000000
0659. 4046N 06928W 01768 0011 223 063 140 140 064 01778 0000000000
0700 4045N 06926W 01766 0016 224 065 140 140 066 01782 0000000000
0700. 4044N 06925W 01769 0021 222 066 138 138 066 01789 0000000000
0701 4043N 06923W 01768 0022 220 066 138 138 067 01789 0000000000
0701. 4042N 06922W 01767 0026 220 065 136 136 065 01792 0000000000
0702 4041N 06920W 01769 0029 220 065 134 134 065 01797 0000000000
0702. 4040N 06919W 01767 0033 222 066 134 134 067 01800 0000000000
0703 4038N 06918W 01768 0035 222 067 132 132 067 01803 0000000000
0703. 4037N 06916W 01766 0036 221 066 134 134 067 01801 0000000000
0704 4036N 06915W 01768 0040 225 066 134 134 067 01808 0000000000
0704. 4035N 06913W 01767 0045 222 065 130 130 066 01811 0000000000
0705 4034N 06912W 01770 0046 224 065 130 130 065 01815 0000000000
0705. 4033N 06910W 01766 0047 224 065 132 132 065 01812 0000000000
0706 4032N 06909W 01769 0051 224 065 132 132 065 01819 0000000000
0706. 4031N 06908W 01767 0053 224 064 132 132 064 01819 0000000000
0707 4030N 06906W 01768 0055 224 062 130 130 062 01822 0000000000
0707. 4028N 06905W 01767 0057 221 061 130 130 062 01822 0000000000
0708 4027N 06903W 01769 0060 222 061 132 132 062 01828 0000000000

Highest winds in Beryl to date...if it wasn't over such cold water, 67 knots would be about 55 knots surface.
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#157 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:26 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn.jpg

And a bigger blow up of convection. Beryl has probably strengthened back to 60 or 65 mph winds IMO.
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