What will Philip J. Klotzbach/Dr Gray do at August Update?

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What do you think Philip J. Klotzbach/Dr Gray do at August Update?

Upgrade the numbers from 17/9/5
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4%
Downgrade the numbers from 17/9/5
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58%
Leave the numbers the same as June update=17/9/5
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38%
 
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#21 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:45 pm

senorpepr wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:
senorpepr wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:I would think he's allowed to have his own opinion.

No. Opinions are not allowed, except on weekends.

What about days that end in ."y"?

Sometimes.

Fine then we'll start a new rule that states... opinions are are only allowed on storm2k on Monday, Tuesday and Saturday of every other month. Then you have to get joint custody of the opinions and pay child support after the 6 month probationary period is over.
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#22 Postby bvigal » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:48 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote::sleeping: :yayaya: :crying: :break: :x


We also need a "Slap back to reality" emoticon...
:hehe: Will this do in the interum? :Can:
Sorry Matt, just kidding! :wink:
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#23 Postby Grease Monkey » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:55 pm

No. Changing the numbers would be cheating. They have to stick with their original numbers.
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#24 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:57 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote::sleeping: :yayaya: :crying: :break: :x


We also need a "Slap back to reality" emoticon...


Here we go...

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#25 Postby Old-TimeCane » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:56 pm

I think they'll leave the numbers the same. We could wind up having a season like 2004. Most everything happens in a really short time, but a lot happens. We may not be hyper-active like 2005, but we're far from a bust.

I'm looking at it this way (purely unscientific, and can't back it up with any more than I'm about to say): we're already ahead of 2004. Nothing at all happened until August that year.

So, even though it might get a little tougher to achieve it with each passing day, I see no reason why they should lower their numbers.
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#26 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:31 pm

A good voting count so far.Those who haved not voted yet do so and if anyone has comments about this theme,replies are welcomed as so far there haved been many.
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#27 Postby WindRunner » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:20 pm

If they do anything, I'd say down by 1 in all to 16/8/4. I think those sound both reasonable and are mathematically pleasing :)
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#28 Postby bocadad » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:02 pm

I am a little surprised no one has mentioned the front page article today in the Sun Sentinel quoting Phil Klotzbach as saying their forecast will likely remain the same, even if July remains quiet. He notes the lower sst's and stronger shear but their relience on larger scale patterns makes them less likely to have a nervous breakdown over daily events. I don't think they are quite ready to throw in the towel for this hurricane season. :lol:
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#29 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:07 pm

bocadad wrote:I am a little surprised no one has mentioned the front page article today in the Sun Sentinel quoting Phil Klotzbach as saying their forecast will likely remain the same, even if July remains quiet. He notes the lower sst's and stronger shear but their relience on larger scale patterns makes them less likely to have a nervous breakdown over daily events. I don't think they are quite ready to throw in the towel for this hurricane season. :lol:


Do you have a link to the Sun Sentinal?
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#30 Postby bocadad » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:14 pm

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#31 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:23 pm



Thanks for the link.Interesting what Jeff Masters says there.And the last line from Phil who said,they would leave the numbers the same Or increasing it.
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#32 Postby Scorpion » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:05 pm

wxman57 wrote:I think they'll definitely be lowering the numbers, or they should be. The early-season prerdictors they counted on for the higher total are just not there now. SSTs continue to fall (less major hurricanes) and wind shear remains typically high for this time of year. La Nina will not be present. Bermuda high is much stronger now - stronger trades mean more low-latitude shear. Why would they go so high above average with such conditions present?


How do SST's decrease during the middle of summer?
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#33 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:08 pm

I personally think they will downgrade the numbers slightly, which is my vote, but not by much.
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#34 Postby EDR1222 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:30 pm

I would think they might drop the numbers some. The environment still seems to be a little hostile out there, though that is not out of the ordinary for this time of year. If the remainder of July remains quiet, I would say they would at least drop them by a couple.
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#35 Postby cajungal » Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:39 pm

Just because the season is quiet right now does not mean anything. It is only July 12th and July is usually one of the quietest months for activity. I read in Jeff Masters blog on wunderground.com that the conditions are expected to improve at the end of the month. Less wind shear. I think we will see lots of activity come August and September.
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#36 Postby Lifesgud2 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:48 pm

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#37 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:58 pm

To be honest...I really have no idea what they'll do...whether they will
lower the numbers or keep them the same or increase the numbers. But
I do know that there is little correlation between early season activity
and late season activity.
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#38 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:12 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:To be honest...I really have no idea what they'll do...whether they will
lower the numbers or keep them the same or increase the numbers. But
I do know that there is little correlation between early season activity
and late season activity.


Well said
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#39 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:36 pm

Thanks for compliments SouthFloridawx
2005 though was a different story...the ssts were so high and the shear
so low that it was easy to increase forecast numbers...this year though
is much closer to a normal year...so I'll wait and see what happens.
It could be like 2004....where there was little or no activity until late July and
then in August-September-October there was major activity.
Or it could be like less active active-cycle years that were less active during the late
season...
Or...
Or...
Or...
yup there's tons of possibilities...
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#40 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:58 pm

Any more votes for this poll? The August update from the Colorado State University folks will be next friday August 4th.
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