SST'S and Anomalies in Atlantic Thread #4

[MiamiensisWx]

Or maybe..it's just...the season there started..and naturally the temps increase...you know that happens regardless of Neutral, El Nino or La Nina....


Not saying your wrong, just those are big words to use, especially given the synopics. El Nino isn't expected anytime soon.

I know... I am just saying that the synoptics indicate the potential for a weak El Nino at the very end of this year or early next year. I am not expecting it immediately, of course.

Don't worry... I won't smack you for stating your opinion.

[Weatherfreak000]

Or maybe..it's just...the season there started..and naturally the temps increase...you know that happens regardless of Neutral, El Nino or La Nina....


Not saying your wrong, just those are big words to use, especially given the synopics. El Nino isn't expected anytime soon.

I know... I am just saying that the synoptics indicate the potential for a weak El Nino at the very end of this year or early next year. I am not expecting it immediately, of course.

Don't worry... I won't smack you for stating your opinion.

Well I can respect that, obviously with Wilma fresh on our minds we can be really worried about late season as much as early season with Dennis. However, history to me shows most storms not only remain weak in late season but they usually stay away from me. And if they don't they are usually weak.

So, I feel safe either way my sympathies to South Florida though. If we don't see the last season El Nino..just given what i've been noticing lately..it could be another rocky ride..for all of us.

[cycloneye]

Atlantic Anomalies weekly update



Above is the weekly update of the Atlantic Anomalies which show some warming in the Western Atlantic and some cooling at spots of the MDR area.

[JonathanBelles]

why is the water so warm in Canada this year compared to others?

[cycloneye]

Atlantic Anomalies 22 June 2005

Atlantic Anomalies 20 June 2006

Above are the graphics from June,2005 and June,2006 in terms of the anomalies in the Tropical Atlantic and very easy you can see how they are cooler than last year at the same timeperiod.

[Aquawind]

Those maps look so radically different that I question the quality or scale.. It almost looks like were going into a Ice Age in comparison..

[cycloneye]

Those maps look so radically different that I question the quality or scale.. It almost looks like were going into a Ice Age in comparison..

Yes,interesting contrast right? That blue has appeared in recent days though.I think is because of the Azores high being strong.

[Aquawind]

I notice the both poles have done entire flips to cool..Major Flips.. just seems off scale or something. The MDR is reasonable.. Hudson Bay and Iceland are total freak flips. Global Cooling in that overall comparison..

[Hurricaneman]

I notice the both poles have done entire flips to cool..Major Flips.. just seems off scale or something. The MDR is reasonable.. Hudson Bay and Iceland are total freak flips. Global Cooling in that overall comparison..

I think their readings near the poles are bad

[windycity]

can anyone tell me if these current SST charts are correct? If they are, we have had significant cool downs in the past weeks.

[x-y-no]

Atlantic Anomalies 22 June 2005

Atlantic Anomalies 20 June 2006

Above are the graphics from June,2005 and June,2006 in terms of the anomalies in the Tropical Atlantic and very easy you can see how they are cooler than last year at the same timeperiod.

Wow ... I hadn't bothered to look at this for a month or more ...

There's something very odd going on here in the arctic and antarctic regions. For years, they've been strongly anomalously warm. Now they're strongly anomalously cold. Look a Hudson Bay - the whole thing is more than 3 degrees cold, half of it over 4 degrees. And weirdly, the distribution seems opposite to where the cold/warm weather anomalies were this winter. Scandinavia and Siberia were extremely cold, but they're relatively warmer than Canada, which had a warm winter.

I'm going to have to look into this - something I don't understand is going on here.

[Aquawind]

Looking at the same map from archive with very close dates looks like 2006 is much cooler than 2005 and previous years. Much more blue coverage and cooler/darker.

June 24, 2004

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/OTI ... nomaly.gif

June 26, 2003

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/OTI ... nomaly.gif

Even comparing the OTIS product and the NHC/Reynolds product there are some questions in quality of data. Granted these maps change from day to day but that OTIS 2006 looks cold in comparison to recent years and current the Reynolds map..

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anom.gif

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCO ... nomaly.gif


http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/c ... anomv2.gif

[x-y-no]

Well, here's the latest NOAA NESDIS anomaly chart:

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.6.20.2006.gif

and it looks significantly different.

Much of this may be due to the navy site not masking out those areas still covered with ice pack. I doubt the methods used work very well on ice.

[Aquawind]

Yeah something is wrong with the navy data.. that 2006 navy graphic is to radically different versus the prior years.. I don't imagine ice pack makes it easy to get a water temp underneath it..lol Maybe the Navy recently changed their method but I doubt it..

[CHRISTY]

Sea Surface Temps...

[Extremeweatherguy]

Sea Surface Temps...

It is scary how warm the waters just off of LA are.

[cheezyWXguy]

if another katrina came by and the water were like that it probably wouldnt weaken as much

[Trugunzn]

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/NCO ... nomaly.gif

Edited by Staff to avoid large graphics. Link already posted on the page multiple times.

[Aquawind]

It is scary how warm the waters just off of LA are.

Scary....Not even close.. heck the temps are barely above normal on the numerous anomaly maps above and in fact is below in parts of the GOM..this is nothing..Lot's of warming to do yet..

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anom.gif

[Audrey2Katrina]

..Lot's of warming to do yet..

Sh-h-h-h-h-h

A2K