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#81 Postby Coredesat » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:19 pm

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SXXX50 KNHC 130014
AF307 0501A ALBERTO HDOB 08 KNHC
0007 2812N 08512W 03048 0047 032 020 116 070 020 03140 0000000000
0007. 2811N 08511W 03048 0045 033 018 114 078 019 03137 0000000000
0008 2810N 08509W 03048 0042 036 014 120 076 016 03136 0000000000
0008. 2809N 08507W 03049 0041 022 009 122 076 010 03135 0000000000
0009 2808N 08505W 03047 0038 027 007 126 076 009 03131 0000000000
0009. 2808N 08503W 03047 0037 036 005 130 074 006 03129 0000000000
0010 2807N 08502W 03050 0036 356 003 128 072 004 03130 0000000000
0010. 2806N 08500W 03048 0035 239 003 130 070 006 03128 0000000000
0011 2806N 08458W 03047 0036 222 009 130 076 010 03128 0000000000
0011. 2805N 08456W 03049 0035 231 009 130 076 009 03129 0000000000
0012 2803N 08455W 03048 0035 232 011 130 072 012 03128 0000000000
0012. 2802N 08453W 03048 0035 223 014 126 066 014 03128 0000000000
0013 2801N 08452W 03046 0035 218 015 130 068 016 03126 0000000000
0013. 2759N 08451W 03050 0036 222 016 132 066 017 03131 0000000000
0014 2758N 08449W 03048 0036 225 020 136 056 022 03129 0000000000
0014. 2757N 08448W 03048 0037 227 024 140 052 026 03130 0000000000
0015 2756N 08446W 03049 0037 227 027 138 056 028 03131 0000000000
0015. 2754N 08445W 03048 0039 222 028 134 062 029 03132 0000000000
0016 2753N 08444W 03047 0040 220 029 130 070 029 03132 0000000000
0016. 2752N 08442W 03046 0043 215 034 124 074 034 03135 0000000000
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#82 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:19 pm

Team Ragnarok wrote:102
SXXX50 KNHC 130014
AF307 0501A ALBERTO HDOB 08 KNHC
0007 2812N 08512W 03048 0047 032 020 116 070 020 03140 0000000000
0007. 2811N 08511W 03048 0045 033 018 114 078 019 03137 0000000000
0008 2810N 08509W 03048 0042 036 014 120 076 016 03136 0000000000
0008. 2809N 08507W 03049 0041 022 009 122 076 010 03135 0000000000
0009 2808N 08505W 03047 0038 027 007 126 076 009 03131 0000000000
0009. 2808N 08503W 03047 0037 036 005 130 074 006 03129 0000000000
0010 2807N 08502W 03050 0036 356 003 128 072 004 03130 0000000000
0010. 2806N 08500W 03048 0035 239 003 130 070 006 03128 0000000000
0011 2806N 08458W 03047 0036 222 009 130 076 010 03128 0000000000
0011. 2805N 08456W 03049 0035 231 009 130 076 009 03129 0000000000
0012 2803N 08455W 03048 0035 232 011 130 072 012 03128 0000000000
0012. 2802N 08453W 03048 0035 223 014 126 066 014 03128 0000000000
0013 2801N 08452W 03046 0035 218 015 130 068 016 03126 0000000000
0013. 2759N 08451W 03050 0036 222 016 132 066 017 03131 0000000000
0014 2758N 08449W 03048 0036 225 020 136 056 022 03129 0000000000
0014. 2757N 08448W 03048 0037 227 024 140 052 026 03130 0000000000
0015 2756N 08446W 03049 0037 227 027 138 056 028 03131 0000000000
0015. 2754N 08445W 03048 0039 222 028 134 062 029 03132 0000000000
0016 2753N 08444W 03047 0040 220 029 130 070 029 03132 0000000000
0016. 2752N 08442W 03046 0043 215 034 124 074 034 03135 0000000000


USAF High Density Observations
Storm Name: ALBERTO (01L)
Mission Number: 05
Flight ID: AF307
Flt Data Number: 08
Latest Recon Position: 128 mi S of Apalachicola, Florida

01: 00:07:00; 28.2°N 85.2°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 154ft; Wnd: NNE (32°) @ 23mph (Max: 23mph); T: 53F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10302ft
02: 00:07:30; 28.2°N 85.2°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 148ft; Wnd: NNE (33°) @ 21mph (Max: 22mph); T: 53F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10292ft
03: 00:08:00; 28.2°N 85.2°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 138ft; Wnd: NE (36°) @ 16mph (Max: 18mph); T: 54F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10289ft
04: 00:08:30; 28.2°N 85.1°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 135ft; Wnd: NNE (22°) @ 10mph (Max: 12mph); T: 54F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10285ft
05: 00:09:00; 28.1°N 85.1°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 125ft; Wnd: NNE (27°) @ 8mph (Max: 10mph); T: 55F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10272ft
06: 00:09:30; 28.1°N 85.1°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 121ft; Wnd: NE (36°) @ 6mph (Max: 7mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10266ft
07: 00:10:00; 28.1°N 85°W; PA: 10007ft; D-Val: 118ft; Wnd: N (356°) @ 3mph (Max: 5mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10269ft
08: 00:10:30; 28.1°N 85°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 115ft; Wnd: WSW (239°) @ 3mph (Max: 7mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10262ft
09: 00:11:00; 28.1°N 85°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 118ft; Wnd: SW (222°) @ 10mph (Max: 12mph); T: 55F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10262ft
10: 00:11:30; 28.1°N 84.9°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 115ft; Wnd: SW (231°) @ 10mph (Max: 10mph); T: 55F; D: 46F; Radar Alt: 10266ft
11: 00:12:00; 28.1°N 84.9°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 115ft; Wnd: SW (232°) @ 13mph (Max: 14mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10262ft
12: 00:12:30; 28°N 84.9°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 115ft; Wnd: SW (223°) @ 16mph (Max: 16mph); T: 55F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10262ft
13: 00:13:00; 28°N 84.9°W; PA: 9993ft; D-Val: 115ft; Wnd: SW (218°) @ 17mph (Max: 18mph); T: 55F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10256ft
14: 00:13:30; 28°N 84.9°W; PA: 10007ft; D-Val: 118ft; Wnd: SW (222°) @ 18mph (Max: 20mph); T: 56F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10272ft
15: 00:14:00; 28°N 84.8°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 118ft; Wnd: SW (225°) @ 23mph (Max: 25mph); T: 56F; D: 42F; Radar Alt: 10266ft
16: 00:14:30; 28°N 84.8°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 121ft; Wnd: SW (227°) @ 28mph (Max: 30mph); T: 57F; D: 41F; Radar Alt: 10269ft
17: 00:15:00; 27.9°N 84.8°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 121ft; Wnd: SW (227°) @ 31mph (Max: 32mph); T: 57F; D: 42F; Radar Alt: 10272ft
18: 00:15:30; 27.9°N 84.8°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 128ft; Wnd: SW (222°) @ 32mph (Max: 33mph); T: 56F; D: 43F; Radar Alt: 10276ft
19: 00:16:00; 27.9°N 84.7°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 131ft; Wnd: SW (220°) @ 33mph (Max: 33mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10276ft
20: 00:16:30; 27.9°N 84.7°W; PA: 9993ft; D-Val: 141ft; Wnd: SW (215°) @ 39mph (Max: 39mph); T: 54F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10285ft
Note: **** means data accuracy was suspect
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#83 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:20 pm

A vortex message should be coming soon!
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#84 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:22 pm

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Through the center . . . and everyone please note the plane is still flying at 10,000 feet . . . though I'm not sure why, as this definately is not a (mature) hurricane.
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#85 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:27 pm

Got it

URNT12 KNHC 130022
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 13/00:10:00Z
B. 28 deg 07 min N
085 deg 00 min W
C. 700 mb 3044 m
D. 60 kt
E. 299 deg 018 nm
F. 019 deg 044 kt
G. 306 deg 038 nm
H. 996 mb
I. 6 C/ 3045 m
J. 13 C/ 3047 m
K. 7 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 134 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF307 0501A ALBERTO OB 03
MAX FL WIND 52 KT NW QUAD 23:52:40 Z AT FL 070.
MAX FL WIND 44 KT NW QUAD 23:59:30 Z AT FL 100.

996mb - not estimated.
Surface winds visually estimated at 60kts.
And someone check me with the core . . . but I think that's cold core . . . I could be getting the numbers backwards, though.
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#86 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:30 pm

What happens if it is indeed cold core?
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#87 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:30 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 130024
AF307 0501A ALBERTO HDOB 09 KNHC
0017 2751N 08441W 03049 0044 214 037 128 072 038 03138 0000000000
0017. 2749N 08440W 03049 0048 214 040 122 072 042 03142 0000000000
0018 2748N 08438W 03048 0050 213 044 120 066 044 03144 0000000000
0018. 2747N 08437W 03046 0053 210 048 116 064 049 03144 0000000000
0019 2746N 08436W 03050 0055 212 053 110 066 054 03150 0000000000
0019. 2745N 08434W 03048 0059 213 051 116 054 052 03152 0000000000
0020 2743N 08433W 03047 0060 214 046 130 034 048 03153 0000000000
0020. 2742N 08432W 03049 0063 212 047 130 030 048 03157 0000000000
0021 2741N 08430W 03047 0066 210 051 130 030 051 03159 0000000000
0021. 2740N 08429W 03048 0068 217 051 126 030 051 03161 0000000000
0022 2739N 08428W 03048 0070 218 049 130 028 050 03163 0000000000
0022. 2737N 08427W 03050 0072 223 049 126 026 050 03167 0000000000
0023 2736N 08425W 03048 0074 223 048 122 028 049 03167 0000000000
0023. 2735N 08424W 03048 0078 223 047 120 028 048 03171 0000000000
0024 2734N 08423W 03048 0080 224 049 112 030 050 03173 0000000000
0024. 2732N 08421W 03048 0083 223 049 106 032 050 03177 0000000000
0025 2731N 08420W 03047 0085 220 051 102 030 053 03177 0000000000
0025. 2730N 08419W 03049 0087 222 055 098 030 056 03182 0000000000
0026 2729N 08417W 03048 0088 222 059 092 046 060 03182 0000000000
0026. 2727N 08416W 03049 0090 221 061 090 056 062 03184 0000000000

And here go the winds.
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#88 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:30 pm

62 kts --> Surface 50 kts
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#89 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:31 pm

Vortex Data Message
Storm Name: ALBERTO (01L)
Mission Number: 05
Flight ID: AF307
Observation Number: 03
Time: 00:10:00Z
Latitude: 28.1°N
Longitude: 85°W
#NAME?
Minimum height at 700 mb 3044 m
Est. Surface Winds Observed: 69 mph
Distance and bearing from center to max surface wind: 21 mi WNW (299°) Distance and bearing from center to max flight level wind: 44 mi NW (306°) Sea level pressure: 996 mb
Max flight level temperature outside the eye: 43°F at 9990 feet
Max flight level temperature inside the eye: 55°F at 9997 feet Dewpoint temperature inside the eye: 45°F
Eye character: NA
Eye shape: NA
Eye diameter: NA
Navigation / Met Accuracy: 0.02 / 1 nm
MAX FL WIND 52 KT NW QUAD 23:52:40 Z AT FL 070.
MAX FL WIND 44 KT NW QUAD 23:59:30 Z AT FL 100.
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#90 Postby ALhurricane » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:32 pm

WindRunner wrote:Got it

URNT12 KNHC 130022
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 13/00:10:00Z
B. 28 deg 07 min N
085 deg 00 min W
C. 700 mb 3044 m
D. 60 kt
E. 299 deg 018 nm
F. 019 deg 044 kt
G. 306 deg 038 nm
H. 996 mb
I. 6 C/ 3045 m
J. 13 C/ 3047 m
K. 7 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 134 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF307 0501A ALBERTO OB 03
MAX FL WIND 52 KT NW QUAD 23:52:40 Z AT FL 070.
MAX FL WIND 44 KT NW QUAD 23:59:30 Z AT FL 100.

996mb - not estimated.
Surface winds visually estimated at 60kts.
And someone check me with the core . . . but I think that's cold core . . . I could be getting the numbers backwards, though.


It's not cold core. Section I is the temperature outside the 'eye' or center and J is the temp inside the 'eye' or center.
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#91 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:32 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:What happens if it is indeed cold core?


Ummm . . . then 11pm would be the last advisory if another pass through doesn't prove these numbers wrong. I'm not positive I'm reading those numbers right (I, J, K) but I believe I. is in the eye and J. is outside the eye.

Actually, I. may be right outside the eye, J. in the eye, and K. the warmest recorded outside of the eye - I think this one is right.

EDIT: OK, the second guess was right. It's warm core, by a good bit too. Pro mets: Doesn't that strong difference indicate a good potential for strengthening?
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#92 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:33 pm

USAF High Density Observations
Storm Name: ALBERTO (01L)
Mission Number: 05
Flight ID: AF307
Flt Data Number: 09
#NAME?

01: 00:17:00; 27.9°N 84.7°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 144ft; Wnd: SW (214°) @ 43mph (Max: 44mph); T: 55F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10295ft
02: 00:17:30; 27.8°N 84.7°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 157ft; Wnd: SW (214°) @ 46mph (Max: 48mph); T: 54F; D: 45F; Radar Alt: 10308ft
03: 00:18:00; 27.8°N 84.6°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 164ft; Wnd: SSW (213°) @ 51mph (Max: 51mph); T: 54F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10315ft
04: 00:18:30; 27.8°N 84.6°W; PA: 9993ft; D-Val: 174ft; Wnd: SSW (210°) @ 55mph (Max: 56mph); T: 53F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10315ft
05: 00:19:00; 27.8°N 84.6°W; PA: 10007ft; D-Val: 180ft; Wnd: SSW (212°) @ 61mph (Max: 62mph); T: 52F; D: 44F; Radar Alt: 10335ft
06: 00:19:30; 27.8°N 84.6°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 194ft; Wnd: SSW (213°) @ 59mph (Max: 60mph); T: 53F; D: 42F; Radar Alt: 10341ft
07: 00:20:00; 27.7°N 84.6°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 197ft; Wnd: SW (214°) @ 53mph (Max: 55mph); T: 55F; D: 38F; Radar Alt: 10344ft
08: 00:20:30; 27.7°N 84.5°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 207ft; Wnd: SSW (212°) @ 54mph (Max: 55mph); T: 55F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10358ft
09: 00:21:00; 27.7°N 84.5°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 217ft; Wnd: SSW (210°) @ 59mph (Max: 59mph); T: 55F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10364ft
10: 00:21:30; 27.7°N 84.5°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 223ft; Wnd: SW (217°) @ 59mph (Max: 59mph); T: 55F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10371ft
11: 00:22:00; 27.7°N 84.5°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 230ft; Wnd: SW (218°) @ 56mph (Max: 58mph); T: 55F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10377ft
12: 00:22:30; 27.6°N 84.5°W; PA: 10007ft; D-Val: 236ft; Wnd: SW (223°) @ 56mph (Max: 58mph); T: 55F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10390ft
13: 00:23:00; 27.6°N 84.4°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 243ft; Wnd: SW (223°) @ 55mph (Max: 56mph); T: 54F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10390ft
14: 00:23:30; 27.6°N 84.4°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 256ft; Wnd: SW (223°) @ 54mph (Max: 55mph); T: 54F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10404ft
15: 00:24:00; 27.6°N 84.4°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 262ft; Wnd: SW (224°) @ 56mph (Max: 58mph); T: 52F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10410ft
16: 00:24:30; 27.5°N 84.4°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 272ft; Wnd: SW (223°) @ 56mph (Max: 58mph); T: 51F; D: 38F; Radar Alt: 10423ft
17: 00:25:00; 27.5°N 84.3°W; PA: 9997ft; D-Val: 279ft; Wnd: SW (220°) @ 59mph (Max: 61mph); T: 50F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10423ft
18: 00:25:30; 27.5°N 84.3°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 285ft; Wnd: SW (222°) @ 63mph (Max: 65mph); T: 50F; D: 37F; Radar Alt: 10440ft
19: 00:26:00; 27.5°N 84.3°W; PA: 10000ft; D-Val: 289ft; Wnd: SW (222°) @ 68mph (Max: 69mph); T: 49F; D: 40F; Radar Alt: 10440ft
20: 00:26:30; 27.5°N 84.3°W; PA: 10003ft; D-Val: 295ft; Wnd: SW (221°) @ 70mph (Max: 71mph); T: 48F; D: 42F; Radar Alt: 10446ft
Note: **** means data accuracy was suspect
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#93 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:33 pm

WindRunner wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:What happens if it is indeed cold core?


Ummm . . . then 11pm would be the last advisory if another pass through doesn't prove these numbers wrong. I'm not positive I'm reading those numbers right (I, J, K) but I believe I. is in the eye and J. is outside the eye.

Actually, I. may be right outside the eye, J. in the eye, and K. the warmest recorded outside of the eye - I think this one is right.


Who would take control of the system after that, the OPC? HPC?
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#94 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:35 pm

doesn't really matter b/c its NOT a cold core system but I don't know who would take control of it
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#95 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:35 pm

If it did go cold core, then it would be treated as a regular gale or any other low pressure system - OPC for the marine forecasting and HPC for the flood potential/QPF part, and both would do some movement forecasts.
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#96 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:35 pm

Isn't the factor at 10,000 ft X .70 of flight level

If so 56MPH is the highest so far.
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#97 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:36 pm

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Map for the last set. New data should be here in about 3 minutes.
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#98 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:40 pm

This is why that 996mb wasn't estimated . . . eye drops :cry: . . . :lol:

UZNT13 KNHC 130022
XXAA 63007 99281 70850 08185 99996 25014 02015 00534 ///// /////
92649 20806 01517 85379 17607 01024 70032 14056 01001 88999 77999
31313 09608 80009
61616 AF307 0501A ALBERTO OB 04
62626 EYE SPL 2810N08502W 0013 MBL WND 02515 AEV 20601 DLM WND 02
518 995751 WL150 02516 082 =
XXBB 63008 99281 70850 08185 00996 25014 11850 17607 22735 14043
33706 15656 44697 13056
21212 00996 02015 11973 03515 22956 02514 33933 01017 44850 01024
55809 04020 66751 04013 77697 33501
31313 09608 80009
61616 AF307 0501A ALBERTO OB 04
62626 EYE SPL 2810N08502W 0013 MBL WND 02515 AEV 20601 DLM WND 02
518 995751 WL150 02516 082 =

If anyone wants to take a stab at decoding it, go ahead. I see 996mb, winds from 250 at 14kts (I think :roll: ).
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#99 Postby O Town » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:41 pm

http://www.hurricanehunters.com/vortex.htm

I. Outside eye
J. Inside eye
K. Sea sruface temp. inside eye
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#100 Postby WindRunner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:42 pm

Since this isn't up yet, and I'm about to post map . . .

SXXX50 KNHC 130034
AF307 0501A ALBERTO HDOB 10 KNHC
0027 2726N 08415W 03048 0090 220 062 092 064 062 03184 0000000000
0027. 2725N 08413W 03048 0091 220 062 092 066 063 03184 0000000000
0028 2724N 08412W 03045 0092 218 060 098 062 061 03183 0000000000
0028. 2723N 08411W 03049 0093 217 061 096 062 062 03187 0000000000
0029 2722N 08410W 03048 0095 215 061 094 072 061 03189 0000000000
0029. 2720N 08408W 03048 0097 211 059 090 074 059 03190 0000000000
0030 2719N 08407W 03048 0098 211 061 086 080 062 03191 0000000000
0030. 2718N 08406W 03049 0100 210 060 092 078 060 03194 0000000000
0031 2717N 08405W 03047 0100 208 059 096 080 059 03192 0000000000
0031. 2716N 08403W 03049 0101 211 058 090 084 058 03196 0000000000
0032 2715N 08402W 03048 0102 214 058 090 084 060 03195 0000000000
0032. 2713N 08401W 03048 0103 214 059 092 084 060 03197 0000000000
0033 2712N 08400W 03048 0104 214 060 090 084 061 03197 0000000000
0033. 2711N 08358W 03048 0104 214 057 090 084 057 03198 0000000000
0034 2710N 08357W 03048 0107 213 057 088 078 058 03200 0000000000
0034. 2709N 08356W 03049 0107 213 056 086 074 057 03201 0000000000
0035 2708N 08355W 03048 0107 215 055 092 074 056 03201 0000000000
0035. 2706N 08353W 03047 0109 214 056 088 078 056 03202 0000000000
0036 2705N 08352W 03049 0111 216 058 088 078 059 03205 0000000000
0036. 2704N 08351W 03047 0112 214 060 090 076 060 03205 0000000000
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