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#381 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:55 pm

770
URNT12 KNHC 121751
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 12/17:36:30Z
B. 27 deg 32 min N
085 deg 26 min W
C. 925 mb 660 m
D. 55 kt
E. 227 deg 029 nm
F. 55 deg 053 kt
G. 227 deg 055 nm
H. EXTRAP 997 mb
I. 24 C/ 777 m
J. 22 C/ 782 m
K. 20 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 134 / 9
O. 0.02 / 5 nm
P. AF305 0401A ALBERTO OB 14
MAX FL WIND 76 KT NW QUAD 15:41:30 Z
MAX FL TEMP 24 C, 209 / 11NM
SLP EXTRAP FROM 925 MB
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#382 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:56 pm

255
SXXX50 KNHC 121750
AF305 0401A ALBERTO HDOB 43 KNHC
1738. 2736N 08522W 00780 5101 166 018 206 206 021 00699 0000000000
1739 2737N 08521W 00778 5099 164 022 204 204 024 00699 0000000000
1739. 2738N 08519W 00781 5096 160 034 202 202 040 00704 0000000000
1740 2739N 08518W 00778 5091 159 043 200 200 043 00707 0000000000
1740. 2740N 08516W 00779 5084 157 046 196 196 047 00715 0000000000
1741 2741N 08515W 00781 5080 152 049 194 194 050 00721 0000000000
1741. 2742N 08513W 00779 5078 151 050 194 194 051 00720 0000000000
1742 2743N 08512W 00779 5074 148 051 190 190 053 00724 0000000000
1742. 2744N 08511W 00780 5073 150 050 190 190 052 00727 0000000000
1743 2745N 08509W 00776 5069 147 052 194 194 053 00727 0000000000
1743. 2746N 08508W 00782 5065 146 054 196 196 056 00737 0000000000
1744 2748N 08507W 00780 5060 144 055 196 196 056 00740 0000000000
1744. 2749N 08506W 00776 5058 143 054 200 200 056 00738 0000000000
1745 2750N 08504W 00781 5056 142 056 198 198 057 00745 0000000000
1745. 2751N 08503W 00779 5054 143 055 196 196 057 00745 0000000000
1746 2752N 08502W 00778 5053 147 058 198 198 060 00745 0000000000
1746. 2753N 08500W 00781 5050 146 060 198 198 061 00750 0000000000
1747 2754N 08459W 00779 5049 148 060 196 196 063 00749 0000000000
1747. 2755N 08458W 00779 5048 148 061 196 196 064 00751 0000000000
1748 2757N 08457W 00780 5045 150 064 196 196 065 00755 0000000000
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#383 Postby AZS » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:56 pm

770
URNT12 KNHC 121751
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 12/17:36:30Z
B. 27 deg 32 min N
085 deg 26 min W
C. 925 mb 660 m
D. 55 kt
E. 227 deg 029 nm
F. 55 deg 053 kt
G. 227 deg 055 nm
H. EXTRAP 997 mb
I. 24 C/ 777 m
J. 22 C/ 782 m
K. 20 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 134 / 9
O. 0.02 / 5 nm
P. AF305 0401A ALBERTO OB 14
MAX FL WIND 76 KT NW QUAD 15:41:30 Z
MAX FL TEMP 24 C, 209 / 11NM
SLP EXTRAP FROM 925 MB
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#384 Postby feederband » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:56 pm

not weaker
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#385 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:56 pm

163100 2715 08502 5052 -0019 194059 +211 +130 198062
163200 2715 08457 5053 -0001 188063 +195 +136 189065
163300 2715 08453 5050 +0018 188061 +186 +153 190064
163400 2715 08448 5034 +0030 188063 +180 +151 188067
163500 2715 08444 5090 +0044 189066 +173 +140 187068
163600 2715 08440 5051 +0055 188066 +174 +139 188068
163700 2715 08435 5061 +0072 189066 +173 +146 191068
163800 2715 08431 5059 +0083 188065 +174 +150 186066
163900 2716 08427 5050 +0086 186061 +173 +156 183063
164000 2720 08428 5070 +0087 186066 +173 +154 187070
164100 2722 08432 5073 +0072 182063 +173 +152 184067
164200 2721 08436 5023 +0053 182067 +174 +150 184068
164300 2721 08439 5062 +0048 182069 +175 +132 183070
164400 2720 08443 5076 +0038 182070 +175 +141 183071
164500 2719 08447 5062 +0021 182068 +179 +156 182069
164600 2718 08451 5034 +0011 184061 +182 +165 188066
164700 2717 08454 5031 +0003 186064 +195 +135 186065
164800 2717 08458 5026 -0020 191061 +214 +126 186064
164900 2720 08500 5025 -0034 192058 +215 +126 192060
165000 2724 08457 5023 -0022 183057 +205 +135 180057
165100 2728 08455 5021 -0011 181066 +194 +143 177072
165200 2733 08452 5031 +0006 177065 +184 +151 178071
165300 2737 08450 5070 +0008 177057 +178 +160 177059
165400 2741 08447 5051 +0020 176066 +177 +161 174071
165500 2745 08444 5042 +0032 173068 +169 +159 175070
165600 2750 08442 5031 +0043 169066 +170 +160 170070
165700 2753 08439 5076 +0029 155070 +165 +157 153081
165800 2757 08436 5065 +0049 160067 +169 +155 162073
165900 2800 08433 6073 +0115 154057 +149 +138 156059
170000 2802 08430 7483 +0215 161056 +131 +121 164059


URNT40 KWBC 121730
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
170100 2803 08426 8845 +0320 172059 +109 +101 173062
170200 2802 08421 10224 +0398 168055 +082 +081 172058
170300 2802 08417 11037 +0445 176058 +070 +069 178063
170400 2801 08413 11066 +0455 170059 +070 +070 170060
170500 2802 08408 11055 +0458 181053 +070 +069 172057
170600 2803 08403 11054 +0474 183053 +070 +069 182055
170700 2803 08358 10991 +0467 176053 +067 +065 179056
170800 2803 08354 11019 +0479 175052 +061 +061 175054
170900 2803 08349 11022 +0481 179050 +066 +065 177051
171000 2803 08344 10745 +0464 180050 +071 +064 180051
171100 2803 08340 9733 +0426 171042 +085 +071 172044
171200 2803 08336 8782 +0385 171046 +099 +086 171050
171300 2803 08332 8291 +0359 163056 +106 +094 155063
171400 2803 08328 7604 +0314 162054 +119 +105 154060
171500 2803 08324 7109 +0295 171050 +125 +114 169054
171600 2803 08320 7034 +0299 166048 +127 +118 168056
171700 2803 08316 6943 +0298 169038 +132 +115 170040
171800 2803 08312 6940 +0301 171040 +123 +117 166047
171900 2804 08308 6926 +0297 168043 +126 +117 166044
172000 2805 08304 6951 +0317 175036 +129 +116 169042
172100 2806 08259 6925 +0307 175028 +126 +114 175031
172200 2807 08255 6469 +0289 170034 +131 +114 169037
172300 2807 08251 5984 +0268 168036 +143 +115 165039
172400 2806 08248 4970 +0210 161042 +152 +125 161043
172500 2804 08245 3091 +0080 160041 +189 +144 163041
172600 2802 08242 2589 +0055 158038 +206 +154 160041
172700 2800 08240 2594 +0089 158036 +208 +153 161039
172800 2800 08236 2592 +0087 156035 +206 +165 158037
172900 2800 08232 2591 +0076 156036 +208 +164 157037
173000 2800 08229 2470 +0063 155035 +210 +165 160037


NOAA FL data. NO SFMR I believe
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#386 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:57 pm

ONE QUESTION:

IF THE NW QUAD. HAS WINDS UP TO 76 KNOTS, THEN THE NE QUAD. SHOULD HAVE STRONGER WINDS?
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#387 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:58 pm

FL 76 = surface 61 (with 80% adjustment), surface 69 (with 90% adjustment).

If I made the call, I'd blend them and declare it a hurricane with 65 knot winds.
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#388 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:01 pm

356
SXXX50 KNHC 121756
AF305 0401A ALBERTO HDOB 44 KNHC
1748. 2758N 08455W 00779 5043 150 065 198 198 066 00755 0000000000
1749 2759N 08454W 00778 5041 148 063 196 196 064 00757 0000000000
1749. 2800N 08453W 00779 5039 145 061 192 192 063 00760 0000000000
1750 2801N 08451W 00781 5036 135 058 186 186 058 00764 0000000000
1750. 2802N 08450W 00781 5036 137 057 184 184 059 00765 0000000000
1751 2803N 08449W 00778 5035 133 059 184 184 061 00763 0000000000
1751. 2804N 08448W 00780 5034 132 054 174 174 055 00765 0000000000
1752 2805N 08447W 00785 5036 130 057 162 162 061 00768 0000000000
1752. 2806N 08445W 00771 5037 124 057 164 164 059 00754 0000000000
1753 2807N 08444W 00785 5037 130 061 168 168 064 00768 0000000000
1753. 2808N 08443W 00776 5037 123 064 166 166 066 00759 0000000000
1754 2809N 08442W 00780 5034 123 065 176 176 067 00765 0000000000
1754. 2810N 08441W 00779 5031 128 058 170 170 062 00767 0000000000
1755 2811N 08440W 00780 5029 120 059 152 152 060 00770 0000000100
1755. 2812N 08439W 00779 5030 118 056 158 158 057 00769 0000000100
1756 2813N 08438W 00778 5029 119 060 180 180 061 00768 0000000000
1756. 2814N 08436W 00779 5025 118 058 168 168 059 00773 0000000000
1757 2815N 08435W 00780 5024 113 054 162 162 055 00775 0000000000
1757. 2816N 08434W 00781 5023 112 054 152 152 055 00778 0000000000
1758 2817N 08433W 00779 5021 112 052 146 146 053 00778 0000000100
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#389 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:01 pm

also, the NOAA aircraft had an 81KT FL wind
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#390 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:02 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:also, the NOAA aircraft had an 81KT FL wind


To what value would that translate to the surface?
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#391 Postby Coredesat » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:03 pm

.8 x 81 = 64.8 kt

.75 x 81 = 60.75 kt

Depends on what factor you use.
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#392 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:03 pm

I am not sure as I do not know how much of the energy is reaching the surface. How I wish we had the SFMR, which I do not know why is not on the aircraft
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#393 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:04 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:also, the NOAA aircraft had an 81KT FL wind


To what value would that translate to the surface?
If this is correct, if the value is 0.8 then the storm has winds of 64.8 knots right? of course all of that is based on if these winds are actually making it to the surface...
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#394 Postby LAwxrgal » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:04 pm

To steal HurricaneGirl's phrase, holy crap!

How on earth does a storm with an exposed center have ~ 70 mph winds? And higher gusts may be found...
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#395 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:08 pm

Someone post what the NOAA aircraft found....please...
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#396 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:10 pm

I found it...never mind... :D
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#397 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:10 pm

The NOAA plane is returning to Tampa, but here is the remainder of their flight (I only posted the final hour)


URNT40 KWBC 121500
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
145600 2725 08347 10017 +0476 174039 +088 +063 173042
145700 2722 08349 10017 +0468 175044 +089 +063 179048
145800 2718 08351 10019 +0461 182050 +084 +065 184051
145900 2715 08353 10016 +0451 183052 +084 +071 182053
150000 2712 08354 10017 +0440 180052 +083 +072 181053


URNT40 KWBC 121505
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
150100 2709 08356 10023 +0436 182055 +082 +072 183056
150200 2706 08358 10020 +0432 187057 +089 +074 191058
150300 2703 08359 10014 +0424 194061 +088 +077 193063
150400 2701 08402 9852 +0418 201059 +092 +079 205060
150500 2704 08404 10058 +0427 204060 +090 +080 202061


URNT40 KWBC 121510
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
150600 2708 08402 10077 +0429 198062 +087 +080 198064
150700 2713 08359 10091 +0437 191061 +084 +076 190062
150800 2718 08356 10098 +0448 182054 +080 +073 184059
150900 2722 08353 10091 +0453 181050 +082 +073 180053
151000 2725 08349 10092 +0466 185048 +083 +064 187049


URNT40 KWBC 121530
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
152400 2709 08420 10090 +0382 199066 +096 +086 200070
152500 2707 08423 10090 +0380 200066 +096 +083 201068
152600 2705 08426 10086 +0375 200066 +102 +081 201067
152700 2704 08429 10089 +0384 202064 +099 +081 202066
152800 2702 08432 10095 +0390 198068 +093 +082 196070
152900 2700 08435 10091 +0396 193062 +095 +087 199067
153000 2658 08439 10091 +0389 197062 +093 +085 196063


URNT10 KWBC 121547
97779 15474 20265 85500 30800 22037 11053 /3128
RMK NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO OB 03 KWBC


URNT40 KWBC 121600
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
153100 2656 08442 10090 +0383 199061 +093 +082 200063
153200 2654 08445 10090 +0378 198061 +091 +084 200063
153300 2651 08447 10091 +0376 199062 +091 +085 199064
153400 2650 08451 10090 +0377 201063 +095 +083 200065
153500 2650 08455 10092 +0363 205064 +096 +084 207066
153600 2651 08459 10094 +0348 211064 +101 +096 211071
153700 2652 08503 10081 +0356 207057 +108 +078 206061
153800 2652 08507 10084 +0358 207057 +113 +064 208060
153900 2649 08510 10084 +0360 209053 +116 +062 210056
154000 2647 08512 10088 +0361 210049 +115 +050 210050
154100 2644 08514 10090 +0366 213049 +116 +051 213050
154200 2642 08517 10090 +0371 211048 +108 +070 210049
154300 2639 08520 10090 +0370 214047 +111 +057 215048
154400 2636 08522 10091 +0374 212047 +113 +054 212048
154500 2634 08525 10090 +0382 205045 +114 +053 208047
154600 2631 08527 10087 +0386 211037 +116 +050 203041
154700 2628 08530 10088 +0393 220036 +113 +048 224037
154800 2625 08532 10090 +0400 220036 +111 +051 219037
154900 2621 08534 10095 +0403 224032 +114 +058 227033
155000 2618 08535 10091 +0413 225035 +114 +053 224039
155100 2615 08537 10081 +0420 219035 +103 +025 220038
155200 2612 08540 10088 +0425 219036 +102 +018 218038
155300 2609 08543 10091 +0435 223034 +099 +015 222035
155400 2607 08546 10091 +0442 225031 +098 +024 225033
155500 2604 08549 10086 +0445 228028 +097 +028 226030
155600 2603 08553 10083 +0442 229027 +094 +046 229028
155700 2603 08557 10089 +0438 226022 +096 +072 225025
155800 2602 08601 10086 +0440 232021 +099 +085 227022
155900 2601 08605 10085 +0445 239023 +099 +087 237023
160000 2604 08606 10084 +0433 223027 +102 +094 220030


URNT40 KWBC 121630
NOAA2 WX01A ALBERTO
160100 2609 08606 10076 +0429 222026 +108 +090 222029
160200 2613 08605 10094 +0426 221026 +110 +085 221030
160300 2618 08604 10041 +0423 208027 +105 +092 213028
160400 2622 08603 9120 +0356 208027 +117 +104 207030
160500 2626 08602 7861 +0270 261021 +123 +102 224025
160600 2630 08601 6753 +0186 297031 +143 +093 303034
160700 2634 08600 5496 +0106 307039 +183 +101 321049
160800 2637 08557 5122 +0068 315052 +188 +100 315058
160900 2639 08554 5085 +0052 313056 +190 +094 313060
161000 2642 08551 5044 +0036 307048 +197 +103 312052
161100 2644 08548 5052 +0023 298038 +199 +108 300041
161200 2648 08546 5059 +0011 289029 +201 +115 294034
161300 2652 08545 5060 -0003 279022 +196 +126 279023
161400 2656 08544 5057 -0025 283024 +207 +125 288027
161500 2700 08543 5047 -0052 286029 +208 +130 287032
161600 2703 08542 5054 -0066 285024 +218 +130 281026
161700 2707 08541 5057 -0080 304016 +214 +137 296018
161800 2710 08538 5049 -0094 322011 +212 +134 343013
161900 2713 08535 5048 -0106 324014 +207 +136 327018
162000 2715 08532 5051 -0116 264007 +204 +134 279010
162100 2719 08533 5060 -0109 351008 +190 +142 351015
162200 2720 08536 5046 -0101 010018 +175 +161 002021
162300 2716 08537 5055 -0100 348024 +181 +156 345026
162400 2713 08535 5059 -0096 325017 +205 +142 347021
162500 2712 08530 5047 -0109 242020 +217 +130 228025
162600 2713 08526 5052 -0111 220034 +226 +124 217037
162700 2713 08521 5057 -0094 214039 +242 +107 204045
162800 2714 08516 5051 -0068 200053 +226 +102 198057
162900 2715 08511 5051 -0053 198059 +218 +107 196060
163000 2715 08506 5054 -0036 197058 +209 +123 197060
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#398 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:12 pm

Thanks for the latest info 8-)
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#399 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:15 pm

dropsondes do not even come close to supporting hurricane intensity
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#400 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:17 pm

I wonder if the storm is beginning the transition to extratropical already.
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