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#901 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:04 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:Does that mean this TS is Organizing?


I would use the word Pulsing
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#902 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:05 pm

So the answer to my question is "yes"?
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#903 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:06 pm

ivanhater wrote:
HurricaneHunter914 wrote:Does that mean this TS is Organizing?


I would use the word Pulsing



I think its tryin to do both. Lets wait for the 8pm adv to see if pressure went down any.
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#904 Postby ALhurricane » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:
CHRISTY wrote:SPAGHETTI PLOT FROM 2PM..ALBERTO

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The problem with just about all of those models is that they're keying on the upper levels, the levels moving the squalls NE toward Florida. But the LLC is detached and embedded in light flow from the ENE. So the two should become separated even farther with time. The models are, indeed, correct in forecasting the squalls to move NE toward Florida, but the LLC will probably be left behind.


In fact, the 00z and 12z EURO are showing the scenario you mentioned above. The ECMWF meanders the LLC in the Gulf for the next several days.

That solution is becoming more and more of a possibility.
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#905 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:06 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:So the answer to my question is "yes"?


Not really, it is trying to come back, but I would wait to see if the trend continues or if it just gets sheared again
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#906 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:07 pm

Last few satellite frames indicate that the convective burst near 26N/87W is diminishing in intensity and getting sheared off to the east. There's not much significant squall activity in the Gulf now. All the "red" areas where recon found the TS force winds are gone.

Here's the image. The red associated with the convective burst NNE of the center was almost 50 miles farther west an hour ago:

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#907 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:07 pm

I agree with most models, its soon to start a NE track.
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#908 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:08 pm

I'd say Struggling!
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#909 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:09 pm

This system is far from trying to "organize."

In fact it looks about as bad as it ever has....
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#910 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:09 pm

You're right, and once Recon gets to this system they'll probably downgrade it to a TD.
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#911 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:10 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:This system is far from trying to "organize."

In fact it looks about as bad as it ever has....


That's every night!!!
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#912 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:10 pm

As the system becomes shallow, and if it weakens I agree that it is more likely to veer to the west under the influence of low-level wind flow.
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#913 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:10 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:I'd say Struggling!


I'd say it's a poor excuse for a Tropical DEPRESSION, much less a TS. Guess I'll go hit the bike and get in a 25 mile ride now that it's cooled down to 92 degrees. ;-)
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#914 Postby stormtruth » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:11 pm

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stormtruth wrote:Seems to be more convection around the center with each new Satellite image. Cruel comments like "weak" and "subtropical" by some posters will not dampen Alberto's Sea Biscuit-like spirit. :ggreen:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn.jpg
its now the shape of the strom its the size of the fight in the storm. :D


LOL :) It's not the shape of the storm it's the size of the fight in the storm.

Last year lots of blobs developed, there were some cat 5s and storms fought off shear to become hurricanes. It drove the mets crazy because they like to talk about shear and how Cat 5s are rare. It looks like this year could drive the mets crazy once again.
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#915 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:12 pm

Right now the Central Atlantic system has a better chance at organizing more than this "TD".
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#916 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:12 pm

stormtruth wrote:
saints63213 wrote:
stormtruth wrote:Seems to be more convection around the center with each new Satellite image. Cruel comments like "weak" and "subtropical" by some posters will not dampen Alberto's Sea Biscuit-like spirit. :ggreen:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn.jpg
its now the shape of the strom its the size of the fight in the storm. :D


LOL :) It's not the shape of the storm it's the size of the fight in the storm.

Last year lots of blobs developed, there were some cat 5s and storms fought off shear to become hurricanes. It drove the mets crazy because they like to talk about shear and how Cat 5s are rare. It looks like this year could drive the mets crazy once again.


Cant agree with u more.
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#917 Postby jasons2k » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:12 pm

ALhurricane wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
In fact, the 00z and 12z EURO are showing the scenario you mentioned above. The ECMWF meanders the LLC in the Gulf for the next several days.

That solution is becoming more and more of a possibility.


I think this is happening. It looks to me like the mid-level circulation is getting pulled north but the LLC continues to split away to the W/NW. It looks like two centers almost on the visible. Interesting...

edit sorry for the quotes being off.
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#918 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:13 pm

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#919 Postby Weatherfreak14 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:13 pm

I just noticed that before you posted. Yep I think your right.
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#920 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:17 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Stratosphere747 wrote:This system is far from trying to "organize."

In fact it looks about as bad as it ever has....


That's every night!!!


Actually the last few nights there was much more overall convection. It was just a matter of having a definitive center. I'm a pro-NHC guy, but this IMO will be one of those systems that they are questions about. Obviously it met the parameters for upgrade, but good grief this has hardly any resemblance to a "tropical storm."

*edit*

I'll also say the NHC has been quite clear in regards to how weak the system has been and weather to give it an upgrade to either TD, or TS status.
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