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#441 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:28 am

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#442 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:29 am

Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?
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#443 Postby BreinLa » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:30 am

No wxman they have not
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#444 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:30 am

wxman57 wrote:Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?


AT 11 AM EDT!!!
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#445 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:30 am

10AM CDT advisory should be out any time now!
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#446 Postby Air Force Met » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:31 am

wxman57 wrote:Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?


12 z models came out with Alberto...and Alberto up at NRL...

plus all sorts of 50 knots at flight level.
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#447 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:32 am

wxman57 wrote:Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?


Models initiated it at 40kts, and with a name. NRL also had name about 3 minutes after that.


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Strange angle to turn around at. Don't know if they are heading into convection or curving around for another fix.
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#448 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:32 am

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wxman57 wrote:Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?


12 z models came out with Alberto...and Alberto up at NRL...

plus all sorts of 50 knots at flight level.


That pretty much means NHC will call it Alberto shortly, then. Quesiton is, what track will they use? Low level west or upper level to Florida..
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#449 Postby Air Force Met » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:34 am

wxman57 wrote:
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wxman57 wrote:Did I miss something? Has the NHC called it Alberto now?


12 z models came out with Alberto...and Alberto up at NRL...

plus all sorts of 50 knots at flight level.


That pretty much means NHC will call it Alberto shortly, then. Quesiton is, what track will they use? Low level west or upper level to Florida..


Official now!

TROPICAL STORM ALBERTO FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 6
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL012006
1500Z SUN JUN 11 2006
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#450 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:34 am

Advisory just out! Surprisingly this has winds of 45mph (not 40)!
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#451 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:35 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Advisory just out! Surprisingly this has winds of 45mph (not 40)!


what the heck!, this thing is throwing me for a loop :eek:
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#452 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:35 am

they are still going with the FL track for now...it better start turning soon then!

Current movement = NW

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/image ... 1_cone.png
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#453 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:37 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:they are still going with the FL track for now...it better start turning soon then!

Current movement = NW

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/image ... 1_cone.png


ya, I bet you they are not confident in that track at all
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#454 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:38 am

Historically, at Alberto's current position, a turn east would be rare. Here is a historical map:

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/image ... _climo.gif
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#455 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:38 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Advisory just out! Surprisingly this has winds of 45mph (not 40)!


That's what 51kt FL winds will convert to at .75 or .8, either one will give 40kts.
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#456 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:38 am

ivanhater wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:they are still going with the FL track for now...it better start turning soon then!

Current movement = NW

http://maps.wunderground.com/data/image ... 1_cone.png


ya, I bet you they are not confident in that track at all
yeah, their discussion will probably say that if it does not start moving by 5pm; the track changes.
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#457 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:40 am

Tropical Storm Alberto Discussion Number 6
Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on June 11, 2006

The Air Force hurricane hunters measured a 1400-ft flight-level wind
of 51 kt in a band of strong winds well to the east-northeast of
the center. There was a 1200 UTC ship report of 33 kt in that same
area. Based on these data...the system is being upgraded to a
tropical storm. Having said that...the satellite presentation of
the storm is not very impressive. Although the low-cloud center is
now fairly well-defined...strong southwesterly shear continues to
displace deep convection away from the center. Global models
predict this shear to increase...so not much additional
strengthening is anticipated. The official intensity forecast is
in good agreement with the latest SHIPS and GFDL model predictions.
The cyclone has moved a little farther to the west than earlier
predicted...however a more northward component of motion may now be
developing. Initial motion estimate is 320/8. A mid-level ridge
to the north of the storm is currently weakening and a trough is
forecast to amplify over the eastern United States during the next
couple of days. Therefore...if the tropical cyclone is able to
maintain at least a partially coherent vertical structure...it
would respond to this steering regime by turning toward the
northeast with some increase in forward speed during the next 48
hours. However...if Alberto becomes even more severely sheared...
it would more likely respond to shallow-level environmental flow
and remain in the Gulf of Mexico while weakening. This latter
scenario cannot be ruled out. The official forecast is similar
to...albeit slower than...the track prediction from the previous
package...and is very close to the consensus of the GFS...GFDL...
GFDN...U.K. Met...and NOGAPS model tracks.
A tropical storm watch may be required for portions of the
northeastern Gulf of Mexico coast later today.
Forecaster Pasch

forecast positions and Max winds
initial 11/1500z 23.9n 88.1w 40 kt
12hr VT 12/0000z 24.9n 88.7w 45 kt
24hr VT 12/1200z 26.0n 87.8w 45 kt
36hr VT 13/0000z 27.3n 85.8w 45 kt
48hr VT 13/1200z 28.5n 83.5w 45 kt
72hr VT 14/1200z 32.0n 77.0w 40 kt...extratropical
96hr VT 15/1200z 39.0n 67.0w 40 kt...extratropical
120hr VT 16/1200z 46.0n 54.0w 40 kt...extratropical

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#458 Postby P.K. » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:41 am

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#459 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:42 am

Cleaned up the map a little. They appear to be darting to the convection one more time before heading home.

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#460 Postby P.K. » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:54 am

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