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#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:52 am

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FXCA62 TJSJ 040847
AFDSJU

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
447 AM AST SUN JUN 4 2006

.SYNOPSIS...AT UPPER LEVELS...A WEAK RIDGE HAS JUST PASSED OVER
THE LOCAL AREA FROM THE WEST. A STRONG TROUGH EXTENDS FROM A LOW
PRESSURE OVER OHIO TO THE EASTERN FLORIDA COAST AND SOUTH TO
EASTERN CUBA. THIS TROUGH WILL PASS NORTH OF THE AREA ON
MONDAY...THE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO DIG SOUTH UNTIL TUESDAY EVENING
WHEN IT REACHES THE EASTERN TIP OF SOUTH CAROLINA. AS IT DOES SO
HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE LOCAL AREA AND REMAIN ACROSS THE
CARIBBEAN AND ADJACENT ATLANTIC WATERS THROUGH THE BEGINNING OF
THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

AT MID LEVELS...A RIDGE EXTENDS FROM THE NORTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS
TO SOUTHERN MEXICO ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN SEA. IT WILL GRADUALLY SHIFT
NORTHWEST THROUGH THURSDAY WHEN IT WILL EXTEND FROM JUST NORTH OF
PUERTO RICO ACROSS JAMAICA AND INTO CENTRAL AMERICA. BY THE
BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK THE HIGH WILL HAVE SHIFTED TO LOCAL WATERS
JUST NORTH OF PUERTO RICO AND THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS.

AT LOWER LEVELS...HIGH PRESSURE WILL DOMINATE THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC
THROUGH THE ENTIRE FORECAST PERIOD. A RIDGE WILL EXTEND SOUTHWEST
TOWARD PUERTO RICO AND THEN WEST ACROSS THE BAHAMAS AND CUBA.
ALTHOUGH THE RIDGE SHIFTS OVER PUERTO RICO BRIEFLY MID WEEK...IT
RETURNS TO A MORE NORTHERLY POSITION BY THURSDAY. A WEAK TROPICAL
WAVE PASSED SOUTH OF THE ISLANDS YESTERDAY. A SECOND WAVE IS
NEAR 55 WEST THIS MORNING AND IS EXPECTED TO TURN SOMEWHAT
NORTHWEST AND WEAKEN BEFORE IT PASSES OVER THE AREA ON MONDAY
AFTERNOON. A THIRD WAVE WILL PASS SOUTH OF THE AREA ON THURSDAY
MORNING...THOUGH MOISTURE MAY TRAIL IT FOR ANOTHER 24 HOURS.

&&

.DISCUSSION...MOISTURE CONTINUES TO STREAM ACROSS SOUTHEAST PUERTO
RICO FROM THE SOUTHEAST AND HAS LEFT MORE THAN 3 INCHES OF
RAINFALL IN SELECT SPOTS OF JUNCOS AND LAS PIEDRAS MUNICIPALITIES.
ALTHOUGH RAIN FELL IN SAN JUAN...RADAR INDICATED THAT THAT
MUNICIPALITY HAD HAD LESS THAN ONE HALF INCH AS OF 4 AM. THE URBAN
AND SMALL STREAM ADVISORY MAY HAVE TO BE CONTINUED FOR A FEW
MUNICIPALITIES IN SOUTHEAST PUERTO RICO. ALTHOUGH THE GFS SHOWED
THE MOISTURE CAUSING THE HEAVY SHOWERS IT TENDED TO DEPICT IT TOO
FAR NORTHWEST. THE MODEL THEN BRINGS SOMEWHAT DRIER AIR OVER THE
AREA THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. MOISTURE RETURNS LATE MONDAY BECOMES
LESS PRONOUNCED ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...AND THEN RETURNS
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.

THE GFS ALSO APPEARS TO DEVELOP A WAVE...CURRENTLY NEAR 21 WEST...AND
BRINGS IT TO NEAR 45 WEST ON FRIDAY NIGHT. BY THE TIME THE MODEL
BRINGS IT TO 60 WEST ON MONDAY MORNING...THE GFS SHOWS 40 KNOT
WINDS OVER THE NORTH SIDE OF IT AT 850 MB AND INCREASING WINDS
OVER THE CARIBBEAN TO OUR SOUTH AT THE SURFACE. THE WAVE PASSES
SOUTH OF US ON MONDAY NIGHT...12 JUNE...AND MAY BRING INCREASED
SHOWERS TO THE AREA AS WELL. ALTHOUGH WINDS APPEAR TO BE
EXAGGERATED...THIS MAY BE THE BEST WAVE THIS SEASON TO PASS OVER
THE CARIBBEAN.



$$

SNELL

They are talking about the wave just off West Africa right now.Let's see if this GFS scenario verifies or not.We know that the GFS model likes to form many lows around the basin so I see this as suspisious.However next runs will tell how consistent the model will be with this feature.

:darrow: :darrow: :darrow: :darrow:


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#2 Postby caribepr » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:43 am

Luis, did you see the HUGE headline on the San Juan Star this morning?

Cape Verde Storms Biggest Threat to PR

Gee!!! Who knew?? Guess we ought to keep an eye on that Cape Verde place, huh?

I figure it must be a slow news day because the big photo is an actress and singer at their wedding ;)
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#3 Postby Scorpion » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:45 am

Wave looks rather weak now. Not sure where the GFS is getting this from.
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#4 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:46 am

what is this "Cape Verde" place? :lol: j/k however...that is a pretty interesting discussion you got going on there... :eek:
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#5 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:02 am

Thanks for posting that Luis.
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#6 Postby wxwatcher91 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:11 pm

the loop shows the convection weakening a bit.

latest shear maps have just 5 to 10kts over the wave.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... m7shr.html
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#7 Postby weatherwindow » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:27 pm

good afternoon luis....emily dos, verdad? 8-) ...talk about an early start to the cape verde season, lets hope not.......rich
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:32 pm

It will uncommon to see such a scenario become a reality, but after the past two seasons, anything is possible.
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#9 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:32 pm

no emily dos, no por favor
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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:34 pm

fact789 wrote:no emily dos, no por favor


I think Audrey still wants to keep its title as the strongest in June. Emily already took the title from Audrey of being the strongest before August.
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#11 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:40 pm

caribepr wrote:Luis, did you see the HUGE headline on the San Juan Star this morning?

Cape Verde Storms Biggest Threat to PR

Gee!!! Who knew?? Guess we ought to keep an eye on that Cape Verde place, huh?

I figure it must be a slow news day because the big photo is an actress and singer at their wedding ;)


I dont get that newspaper but as I get El Nuevo Dia.By the way on June 21 that newspaper will publish a hurricane special,about preparations,forecasts,charts and more.Below is this afternoon's discussion in which the big news is the ash from the Soufriere.

000
FXCA62 TJSJ 042024
AFDSJU

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
424 PM AST SUN JUN 4 2006

.DISCUSSION...
SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW PREVAILS ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA TODAY...
ADVECTING MODEST LLVL MOISTURE INTO THE AREA...AND HAS COMBINED
WITH LOCAL DIURNAL EFFECTS...AND WEAK DIVERGENCE ALOFT TO PRODUCE
SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS ALL BUT THE SW AND S
CENTRAL OF PR...AND MORE ISOLATED SHOWERS ACROSS THE VI. THIS
CONVECTION SHOULD LINGER INTO THE EVENING HOURS BEFORE GRADUALLY
DYING OFF THROUGH MIDNIGHT. YEAH BUT I SAID THE SAME THING
YESTERDAY...RIGHT?

UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ACROSS THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE U.S. WITH
NEGATIVE TILT S/W MOVING THROUGH BASE AND ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE
EXTREME NW CARIB IS PRODUCING A BROAD ZONE OF UPPER DIVERGENCE
ACROSS THE BAHAMAS...AND E PORTIONS OF CUBA...JAMAICA...
HISPANIOLA...AND TO A LESSER EXTENT PR. THIS S/W WILL SWEEP
ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY AND DESTABILIZE THE MID
AND UPPER ATMOSPHERE. AT THE SAME TIME...SUBSIDENCE OUT AHEAD OF A
TROPICAL WAVE...MOVING QUICKLY INTO NE S AMERICA AND APPROACHING THE
WINDWARDS...WILL MOVE INTO THE E AND NE CARIB LATER THIS EVENING
AND OVERNIGHT TO LIMIT LLVL MOISTURE AND THUS CONVECTION.
HOWEVER...SPEED CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED WITH A 20-30 KT LLVL WIND
SURGE ACCOMPANYING THE TROPICAL WAVE WILL PRODUCE SUFFICIENT
MOISTURE FOR SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS AFTERNOON AND EVENING SHOWERS
AND TSTORMS ACROSS PR MONDAY...WITH LESS WEATHER ACROSS THE VI.
SUFFICIENT LLVL MOISTURE IN AN ENHANCED SE TO ESE LLVL FLOW WILL
PREVAIL THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WEEK...AND COMBINE WITH
MODERATELY UNSTABLE MID TO UPPER LEVEL CONDITIONS FOR ACTIVE
DIURNAL CONVECTION EACH DAY...BARRING OVERCAST SKIES ASSOCIATED
WITH LINGERING CONVECTIONS ACROSS THE BAHAMAS AND SW ATLC...WHICH
COULD BLOCK DAYTIME HEATING.

&&

.MARINE...
WIND AND SEAS WILL PICK UP ACROSS THE CARIB AND ANEGADA PASSAGE
MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING TROPICAL
WAVE...AND REMAIN VERY CHOPPY THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK...WITH
MEAN FLOW REMAINING ESE TO SE.

&&

.AVIATION...
SOUFRIERRE HILLS VOLCANO CONTINUES TO EXPEL GASEOUS EMMISIONS OF
ASH...SULFUR AND STEAM...THAT THE SE WINDS ARE TRANSPORTING INTO
THE LOCAL AREA. A BROAD CLOUD ABOUT 30 MILES WIDE FROM YESTERDAYS
EMMISIONS DAMMED UP ALONG THE E AND SE COASTS OF PR OVERNIGHT AND
THIS MORNING AND THEN MOVED NW ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE ISLAND AND
INTO THE SAN JUAN METRO AREA...REDUCING VSBYS 6-9 NM...AND 4-5 NM
ALONG THE EAST COAST PER OCEANCAMPR.COM WEBCAMS IN FAJARDO. TEMP
INVERSION AT 10K YESTERDAY LOCALLY AND TRAPPING PARTICULATE IN THE
LOWER TROP HAS DETERIORATED AND WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER MIXING OF
CURRENT EMISSIONS. VOLCANO APPEARS TO BE EXPELLING LESS VOLUME
TODAY THAN YESTERDAY...AND THE PLUME HAS BEEN IN A MORE NARROW
TRAJECTORY TOWARDS THE ST CROIX VICINITY THROUGHOUT THE AFTERNOON.
THE CLOUD ACROSS PR SHOULD MOVE NW OVERNIGHT AND EVENTUALLY CLEAR
ALL OF THE ISLAND BY 12-18 HOURS...WITH LESSER AMOUNTS AFFECTING
ST CROIX AND E PR OVERNIGHT...TOPS TO AROUND 8-9K FT.


&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
SJU 78 91 78 91 / 20 40 20 20
STT 79 86 79 86 / 20 40 40 40

&&

.SJU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
PR...NONE.
VI...NONE.
&&

$$

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#12 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:21 pm

caribepr wrote:Luis, did you see the HUGE headline on the San Juan Star this morning?

Cape Verde Storms Biggest Threat to PR

Gee!!! Who knew?? Guess we ought to keep an eye on that Cape Verde place, huh?


:lol: Good one :lol:
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#13 Postby shaggy » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:09 pm

the lack of dry air in the atlantic is a concern since usually the azores high is shutting off the tropics but theres plenty of moisture out there this year.Maybe this wave will hold together long enough to verify with the GFS
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#14 Postby boca » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:50 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
caribepr wrote:Luis, did you see the HUGE headline on the San Juan Star this morning?

Cape Verde Storms Biggest Threat to PR

Gee!!! Who knew?? Guess we ought to keep an eye on that Cape Verde place, huh?


:lol: Good one :lol:


Can you please post the link.
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#15 Postby caribepr » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:14 pm

boca wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:
caribepr wrote:Luis, did you see the HUGE headline on the San Juan Star this morning?

Cape Verde Storms Biggest Threat to PR

Gee!!! Who knew?? Guess we ought to keep an eye on that Cape Verde place, huh?


:lol: Good one :lol:


Can you please post the link.


Sorry Boca...I'm sure there is a link to the San Juan Star online, but I was just mentioning what I saw in the English language paper we get here (the rest are in Spanish and I'm not that good yet! My mala (bad)!)
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#16 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:48 am

000
FXCA62 TJSJ 051014
AFDSJU

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
614 AM AST MON JUN 5 2006

.SYNOPSIS...AT UPPER LEVELS...A RIDGE IS FORMING OVER PUERTO RICO
AND EXTENDS NORTHEAST INTO THE ATLANTIC AND WEST SOUTHWEST INTO
THE CARIBBEAN. THIS HIGH PRESSURE GRADUALLY MOVES OVER THE
SOUTHERN BAHAMAS BY MID MONTH.

AT MID LEVELS...HIGH PRESSURE JUST EAST OF THE WINDWARD AND
LEEWARD ISLANDS...BECOMES ORIENTED MORE NORTHEAST-SOUTHWEST EARLY
THIS WEEK AND GRADUALLY DRIFTS WESTWARD AGAINST A LONG WAVE TROUGH
OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES AND WESTERN ATLANTIC...UNTIL BY
MONDAY OF NEXT WEEK IT IS EAST-WEST ALONG 24 NORTH.

AT LOWER LEVELS...HIGH PRESSURE WANDERS AROUND IN THE CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...BUT DOES NOT CHANGE POSITIONS OR STRENGTH UNTIL THE
BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK WHEN THE HIGH STRENGTHENS AND MOVES
NORTHEAST TOWARD THE AZORES. LOW PRESSURE CONTINUES IN THE
SOUTHWEST AND THEN THE SOUTHERN CARIBBEAN THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TEN
DAYS. A TROPICAL WAVE IS NEAR 61 WEST BUT IS INLAND OVER SOUTH
AMERICA AND EXTENDS ONLY UP INTO THE SOUTHERN CARIBBEAN. IT WILL
PASS SOUTH OF PUERTO RICO TODAY. A TROPICAL WAVE IS EXPECTED TO
PASS SOUTH OF THE AREA ON FRIDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER TROPICAL WAVE BECOMES
EVIDENT AT ABOUT 48 WEST ON SUNDAY AND IS EXPECTED TO PASS SOUTH
OF PUERTO RICO ON THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.

&&

.DISCUSSION...WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY A THUNDERSTORM
OR TWO CONTINUED OVER THE CARIBBEAN OVERNIGHT. SOME SHOWERS
BRUSHED THE SOUTH COAST AROUND MIDNIGHT...OTHERS WERE SEEN COMING
ONSHORE NEAR YABUCOA JUST BEFORE DAWN. THIS IN SPITE OF THE FACT
THAT THE GFS...NAM AND UKMET SHOWED MUCH REDUCED MOISTURE OVER
THE AREA AT 12Z AT 850 MB. THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE SOME DRYING
AHEAD AND NORTH OF THE TROPICAL WAVE NOW APPROACHING THE ISLAND IN
SATELLITE IMAGERY...BUT THIS SHOULD NOT PREVENT SCATTERED SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS FROM FORMING IN THE INTERIOR PORTIONS OF PUERTO
RICO DURING THE AFTERNOON...IN FACT THE WAVE MAY ALREADY BE SOUTH
OF THE AREA BY THAT TIME...SINCE IT IS ADVANCING TOWARD THE WEST AT
ABOUT 20 KNOTS. IN ANY EVENT ALL THE MODELS AND THE ECMWF ARE SHOWING
A PARTIAL RECOVERY IN LOW LEVEL HUMIDITY DURING THE AFTERNOON
HOURS.

LITTLE CHANGE IS FORECAST IN THE MOISTURE CONTENT OF THE AIR OVER
THE AREA DURING THE NEXT 7 TO 10 DAYS. AND WINDS REMAIN SOUTHEAST
EXCEPT FOR A TIME AROUND WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND AGAIN FROM SUNDAY
AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING OF NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER...THE GFS
DOES BEGIN TO SHOW SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AS THE WEEKEND DRAWS
NEAR. AS ANOTHER TROPICAL WAVE APPROACHES THE LOCAL AREA LATE
THURSDAY... WINDS AT 850 MB TURN ABRUPTLY SOUTHEASTERLY OVER THE
WINDWARD ISLANDS AND WINDS THERE...AS WELL AS FARTHER EAST OVER
THE ATLANTIC...INCREASE TO 30 KNOTS...ACCORDING TO THE MODEL.
THESE WINDS DO NOT FULLY SUBSIDE...AND WHEN ANOTHER EVEN STRONGER
WAVE CROSSES THE WINDWARD ISLANDS ON MONDAY NIGHT...WINDS THEN
INCREASE TO 40 KNOTS AT 850 MB. MEANWHILE WINDS OVER PUERTO RICO
AND THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS INCREASE TO 25 TO 35 KNOTS BY THE
TUESDAY AFTER NEXT WITH SOME MORE LIMITED REFLECTION OF INCREASED
WIND SPEEDS AT THE SURFACE. ALTHOUGH MODELS LIFT THE MOISTURE INTO
THE EAST CENTRAL CARIBBEAN...IT IS NOT BY ANY MEANS CLEAR THAT
THIS WAVE WILL BE AS STRONG OR REACH AS FAR NORTH AS THE MODEL
INDICATES AND FORECASTS HAVE BEEN TEMPERED SOME TO REFLECT THIS
UNCERTAINTY. UNTIL THEN THE PATTERN REMAINS WARM AND DRY FOR THE
SAN JUAN AREA WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
NORTHWEST SECTIONS OF PUERTO RICO MAINLY DURING THE AFTERNOONS AND
EARLY EVENINGS. THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS WILL BE MOSTLY SUNNY AND
GENERALLY DRY DURING THE PERIOD.

&&

.MARINE...SEAS WILL INCREASE TODAY AND AGAIN ON THURSDAY AND
FRIDAY. THE WAVE WATCH SHOWS SEAS INCREASING ABOVE 6 FEET WHEN THE
STRONGEST WAVE OF THE YEAR SO FAR PASSES SOUTH OF US EARLY NEXT
WEEK. ONLY AVERAGE SHOWER ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED OVER THE LOCAL
WATERS THIS WEEK.


&&

.AVIATION...VOLCANIC ASH ADDED A PALE GRAY CAST TO THE ATMOSPHERE
GENERALLY BELOW 12 THOUSAND FEET SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH ASH
COULD NOT BE SEEN IN THE FIRST VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE
DAY...LOCAL OBSERVATIONS SHOWED ONLY 6 MILES VISIBILITY BOTH AT
SAN JUAN AND ROOSEVELT ROADS. MOST OF THIS IS DUE TO VOLCANIC ASH.
ASH MAY CONTINUE TO PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR SEVERAL DAYS TO COME.

LOCAL THUNDERSTORMS ARE REACHING REGULARLY ABOVE 40 THOUSAND FEET
IN THE AFTERNOONS AND THIS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE OVER THE NORTHWEST
INTERIOR SECTIONS OF PUERTO RICO THROUGH THE WEEKEND. AND
FINALLY...AREAS OF CONVECTION HAVE BEEN OCCURRING OVER HAITI AND
THE WATERS JUST NORTHWEST AND NORTH. SOME OF THESE TOPS WILL HAVE TO BE
CIRCUMNAVIGATED ON THE ROUTE FROM SAN JUAN TO MIAMI...AS THIS
BAND IS NOT EXPECTED TO DISAPPEAR SOON EITHER.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
SJU 91 78 91 78 / 40 20 30 0
STT 86 79 86 79 / 40 40 40 20

&&

.SJU WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
PR...NONE.
VI...NONE.
&&

$$

SNELL



When discussions are concerned in my estimation this forecaster Walter Snell is the best as he goes into many details.About the wave for early next week,it looks like it will pass mainly south of the NE Caribbean islands.
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#17 Postby Steve H. » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:57 am

For those who want to beat the models to death, the 0Z Canadien has a hurricane in the GOM at the end of the week/weekend :roll:
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#18 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:57 am

Steve H. wrote:For those who want to beat the models to death, the 0Z Canadien has a hurricane in the GOM at the end of the week/weekend :roll:



:beam: <--- Me murdering the CMC model. Darn it why won't you die?!?!?!
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#19 Postby boca » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:00 am

:lol: That CMC model its really good. :roll:
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#20 Postby bvigal » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:43 am

OK, I'm lost... what does CMC developing storm in GOM have to do with San Juan Weather Discussions??

Luis, I agree Snell is very good. Our visibility here today is less than 5miles. Just talked to cruise captain and he has 20 passengers stuck in San Juan since Saturday as American Eagle won't fly over here.

(It smells like rotten eggs here.)

BTW did you guys notice this morning's TWD mention of African dust? "AN AREA OF AFRICAN DUST IS OBSERVED ON THE
FIRST VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGES FROM 6N-20N E OF 34W...THUS
LIMITING CONVECTION IS THAT AREA." Yeah!!!
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